Not to get off track here, but how is Glenn Beck waging his millions on it, AK-Jeff?
I have heard that some prominent economist is saying we COULD have another recession soon.
if you have your eyes and ears open and can put 2 and 2 together, you have like many of us, have figured out that there is an impending financial collapse in the united states.
the type of financial collapse that likely has never been seen.. whether you believe this is being done intentionally by global power hungry groups bent on bringing us to our knees, in order to push their agenda, or whether it is being done out of carelessness and stupidity is hardly relevant at this point.. the writing is on the wall.
experts (and all who want to) can see it , high level officials expect it, and are already implementing the contingencies that are needed in order handle the civil unrest that will ensue.
Not to get off track here, but how is Glenn Beck waging his millions on it, AK-Jeff?
I have heard that some prominent economist is saying we COULD have another recession soon.
on friday the 1st of march, i went to my cousins 21st birthday celebration - she has never been a jw.
my other cousins (twins) were introduced by my mother to the faith over 20 years ago (they are now 38) and got baptised when they were about 19. they both weren't that "strong" in the faith and married "worldly partners" and stopped going to meetings.. they knew i had left and i presumed they knew i was disfellowshipped for apostacy.. at the party the one twin came over to me and we chatted about life etc and she says "oh carl is going to start studying" - i looked at her a little odd and asked what it was as he already had a financial degree.
"no silly, he is going to study the truth" my face must have been a picture and in a very high voiced squeaked why would he ever consider that, he is an intellecutal guy....... she continued about how the people had changed and were so much better than when we were younger.
That whole birthday thing just sounds so strange! Do you think it's legit, or something an elder told her to bring her back in? And Jah wants his servants to be younger? Did she explain what that means? Does it mean that the general population of witnesses is getting older, younger ones are not staying/coming in, and they are afraid that as they pass on, their numbers will be very few and they will not have the donations they have enjoyed in the past? All very odd. Gayle had a great suggestion of trying to get Carl information from jwfacts. Poor LouBelle, you must be so disappointed. But it sounds as if you did a great job of keeping your cool.
dear friends:.
forty-five years ago i was out in service with an elder, and we came upon a house where the owners kindly received us.
this was not so unusual as the family was jehovah's witnesses.
Mike, I'll say a prayer for you tonight. Sending best wishes your way.
i have not been going to the meetings for just over nine months and was wondering what to say when an elder asked am i coming back.
if i say no will i get df'd?
we have not gotton any phonecalls or visits but a text message asking if we are coming back.
If all you have gotten in 9 months is 1 text message, your elders might be the type who don't really have time/care enough to go after faders. Hope you didn't respond to the text. If possible, look at the caller ID before answering the phone, and if it is one of them, don't answer. Don't respond to any messages left, or answer texts, emails, and if they show up at the door unannounced, don't answer. You're not up to speaking to anyone that day if you accidentally open to them. Hope they stay away from you, tho. All the best to you in your fade.
sorry it's gonna be long winded.
i've done my best to reconstruct from memory.
my husband was next to me the whole time.
That must have been a difficult session to sit through, but it sounds like you did well! Glad your husband was by your side. As others have said, you may have said just enough for them to come after you. I think sometimes it depends on the personalities of the elders involved as to how hard they will come after someone. Please allow me to repeat what others have already said: DO NOT meet with them again. Do not give them power over you. You don't have to pick up the phone when they call, or respond to msgs, emails or texts. Hopefully your husband will support you. And if they somehow are able to make contact, please tell them they did not shephard you last time, that you felt you were attacked and being accused of wrong doing. Hopefully your husband will follow you out. There are many great people outside of the witnesses who would love to be your friends. Remember that if your current friends begin to shun you. All the best, Julia. Hold your head high!
i have a sister-in-law that has hurt me deeply with her jw attitudes and decisions.
she does not shun me or her brother but shuns one of our children.
i am suffering from depression taking anti depressants to cope and i have fibromagiya with intensifies with stress.
I don't see anything wrong with using that chapter, as long as it is done gently and with respect. I know she doesn't deserve your respect, esp. since she is shunning your child (what a pious snot she must be!) but sometimes we have to be the better person to get our point across. I feel for you that this person has hurt you so,and has done so for years. I have a similar situation with someone in my husbands family. I am able to avoid them most of the year, even though they live in the same subdivision as I. Is there any way you can avoid this toxic person most of the time? Your health has to come first so you can live the best possible life you can. After all these years of putting up with her garbage, don't you think you deserve it?
i think it's fitting for my very first post to be a thread on jw.net turning myself in to any lurking elders out there on a witch-hunt to cleanse the congregation so that god's choosen ones can "remain in god's love.
" so i'm sorry to all you awesome, truthful apostates on this site, but this thread is really intended for any lurking nazis -- i mean, the taliban -- ugh, i mean elders of the world's most "loving" cult religion.. i am an apostate.
here, i'll save you the trouble:.
Wow! And welcome. You sound like a spitfire. Are you a redhead, by chance?
It will be quite interesting to see if anyone actually turns you in. But how would they explain how they found out?
co want to talk to me.
first of all, i am very apologize for my english- i am studying this language nearly 2 years, so it's not that good yet, unfortunately.
also, it's my first topic.
I hope everything works out for you, goodsoul. Please send your letter stepping down quickly, before the co gets there. Is it possible for you and your wife to be away from home for most of the days and early evenings during the week of the co's visit? Browsing at stores, movie night, just anything so as not to be caught off gaurd by an unexpected visit? You sound like you are simply not ready to speak to anyone, and it might stress you out too much. All the best to you and your wife in your fade.
--because i no longer nelieve.
i was excommunicated for "apostasy".
that was their rationale for not allowing me to speak at his funeral last month.
I'm so sorry for your loss, formermormon. It sounds like you have good memories of your Dad, and had a good relationship with him till the end. I hope that gives you comfort.
As for not allowing you to speak, and boxing you and your family in with the 2 largest men, kind of sounds like a Mormon Mafia! If you still speak to your family, you may want to mention that when you told the story of your Fathers funeral to others, and how you were treated, they were appalled and it reaffirmed their beliefs that Mormons are a strange, unchristian sect that does not really follow Jesus teachings.
i know this is true every week, and i say it all the time, and i know blondie will be doing her review later, but.... today's watchtower was bat-shit crazy!.
i knew it was going to be a bizzare one just reading it, but the comments at the meeting took it even further.
i can't post all the crazy ones, but in summary what they were saying was:.
Thank you for posting. I had forgotten how crazy some wt studies could be.