Posts by ctrwtf

I gotta call BS. Why are such experiences delivered with first names only? If this were real wouldn't the individuals involved want to stand by their story?

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when you went to an "assembly" did you wear a badge?

by greenhornet in

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it embarrassed me.

when i was young my folks made me wear one and i opened it up and took the paper out making it look like it fell out.

after my folks ask what happen i said i dont know.

ctrwtf

Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!

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W. E. B. DuBois vs

by ctrwtf in

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listening to a program regarding w. e. b. dubois the other day that quoted his writing in what was i think "the souls of black folk.

" sorry to be too lazy to cite it myself here.. the gist of the quote was that men need to have goals that are broad, inspired and pure.

not sordid money-getting.. that phrase, "sordid money getting" made me think of course of the watchtower.

ctrwtf

Listening to a program regarding W. E. B. DuBois the other day that quoted his writing in what was I think "The Souls of Black Folk." Sorry to be too lazy to cite it myself here.

The gist of the quote was that men need to have goals that are broad, inspired and pure. Not sordid money-getting.

That phrase, "sordid money getting" made me think of course of the Watchtower. It seems to me that while all religions are of course seeking donations, most also give back substantially to their communities. Most other major religions have set up Universities. Most have broad based charitable organizations. At the least, most provide real comfort to people at the most difficult times of their lives. Most other religions don't expel people for thinking freely.

On the other hand the WT seems to be engaged in broad based money grabs from congregations. Lucrative real estate sales and swaps and most recently, TV evangelist style outright begging. Add also, massive layoffs all to preserve the bottom line. It resorts to extensive thought control to retain membership. It seems that sordid money getting is an apt description.

I've also had the "pleasure" of dealing from time to time with various individuals within the congregation on a business level. I've been astonished at the level of cut-throat competition even among so-called brothers. I've seen those who will use deceit to steal other brothers clients, then go to the meeting and proclaim their self sacrificing love for one another. I've seen builders that will cut every corner to pad their bottom line to the detriment of another brother. I guess the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.

It seems ironic that about the same time CTRussell was thinking up his scheme, DuBois was inspiring a movement that has really helped all men aspire to a higher purpose. Recent newsworthy events show we have a long way to go in realizing the dream of equality across race and gender. Still, I'd rather contribute to any charity or organization that isn't involved in "sordid money-getting."

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I'm ready to get my first Powerball ticket -- NOT!

by FatFreek 2005 in

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it's up to some 800 zillion dollars now and hasn't suckered me in yet.

i've been out of watchtower for some 38 years now and i suppose the lottery is one of their nonoze.

i have nothing morally wrong against it or anyone who enjoys doing it.

ctrwtf

I buy in when the fever strikes a few hundred million bucks. Bought 40 dollars worth the other day and obviously no winner. Maybe I'll buy a few tomorrow for shits and giggles. If I win, well you won't see me posting much anymore

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What is your relationship with ALCOHOL?

by nicolaou in

here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".

another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".

already people are making cries of "nanny state!

ctrwtf

Cocktail or two before dinner or while cooking. Split a bottle of wine most days with the wifey. Wine makes everything taste better. Maybe a good whiskey to settle in for the night.

Rarely if ever drunk...hate the feeling of being out of control. But I do love the taste............

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What would you like to see the Watchtower Society implement that would give you a dignified way to leave/stop being a Jehovah's Witness?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

jehovah's witnesses do not provide a dignified resignation process for members who wish to resign/quit being a jehovah's witnesses.you are not given any good choices.

you can either: disassociate yourself,fade,become inactive or move to another city/state/country where you won't be bothered or found out.. if you quit your job/employment, stop attending a book club or bowling league,or quit a lawn service company, newspaper delivery service,you wouldn't see your employer or friends sending out a written notice to anyone to stop all association with you or have little contact.you would sue them for slander.you have a right to quit any association or contract (when it expires or doesn't meet the terms any longer) whenever you wish.. what would you like to see the watchtower society implement that would give you a dignified way to leave/stop being a jehovah's witness?.

ctrwtf

Unfortunately, even if any policies were changed, nothing would change.

The dubs are indoctrinated with an "us against them" mentality. Anyone that leaves for any reason will always be looked upon as the enemy.

I've never been df'd or da'd. With the exception of no meetings or field service, my life has changed in no other way, but my relatives look at me as mentally defective. Sorry bro, just the facts.