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  new light a tenent of Branch Davidians

  by recovering in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow i came across this recently.

  the branch davidians are/where a cult lead by david koresh.

  they believed themselves to be living in a time when biblical prophecies of a final divine judgment were coming to pass as a prelude to christ's second coming.

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  The Branch Davidian group descends from the Seventh Day Adventist, who were inspired by the teachings of William Miller in regard 1844.

  Other Adventists groups were also inspired from William Miller's teachings. One of these was Second Adventist Nelson Barbour, who came up with 1914. Barbour convinved Russell of his groups chronology and Russell began working for his magazine, until 1879 when Russell broke away and formed his own group.

  Many of these groups have similar terminology. New Light. Present Truth. And so forth.
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  Nation of Islam 1914 belief

  by Oroborus21 in

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  2. beliefs

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  i did not know before that the nation of islam had a 1914 belief that was akin to that of jws.. i thought this was interesting is all.. does anyone know whether this is a current teaching of theirs?

  (googling it myself now...) but just thought i would throw it out to the knowledgeable crowd here..... -eduardo

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  Wow, one learns something new everyday.

  Now NOI is being influenced by Scientology and Farrakhan is all into Dianetics.
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  Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

  by Marie33 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

  now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

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  I watched the video and am highly skeptical of that the leaders of the Watchtower practice any such thing.

  At best, if the story in the video is true, it just sounds like a maverick Bethelite with very out there beliefs. I don’t undertand why as a gung-ho Bethelite, he didn’t immediately get up and run when he talked about spiritism and report him to the Bethel elders. That is what a mentally-in JW is indoctrinated to do.

  All the other links is based on supposition upon supposition. There are far too facts to draw a conclusion.

  I watched the second video as well on the subject and was hoping that he would clarify matters, as I was trying to keep an open mind. Or that perhaps he would produce the mysterious notebook. But he says he’s only going to talk about it for people who call or text him.

  I agree with a previous post. Why would any gung-ho JW keep something that was supposed to be connected with spiritism? It doesn’t seem to add up.
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  What phobias do you have?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so this is just a general question.

  call it curiosity.. what sort of phobias do we have?

  heights?

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  Maybe not a phobia, but I've social anxiety. And I avoid talking on the phone. I also have anxiety in interacting with my father.

  When I'm outside, I don't like lightning, but when I'm indoors I'm fine.
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  Did You Know “Weird JWs” When You Were In The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  it could be argued that all jws are weird.

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  i’m referring to really weird odd witnesses.. most of the oddballs that i remember were elders..

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  I'm sure many JWs thought I was weird. I was always excluded.
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  Watchtower's new revenue stream, tourism!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  come to "witness world"!

  at our new lakeside corporate resort we have a bible museum!

  take a picture with caleb and sofia!

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  This is not new.

  Companies for Bethel tourism (as well as for International Conventions) have been around a long time.
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  Gradualism for the blood doctrine?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here in australia, during the service meeting this week, the local needs part was taken up to quickly discuss a letter from the organization stating that there will no longer be a annual meeting part to discuss or remind the congregations about their blood cards.. i found this quite odd.. its not like that there is a shortage of meeting time to discuss this issue, as the society has recently been hijacking more and more local needs parts for its own messages.

  and for a supposedly important doctrine, you would think that it should be mentioned more often rather than less, to keep everyone in line.. could this be a beginning of the movement away from the blood doctrine, through the process of gradualism?.

  no-zombie .

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  Has this letter been posted online?
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  Leaked - Video tape inside Watchtower HQ of protest Nov 5, 2017

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i saw this on jw reddit and thought, okay that will just be one of the protesters videotaping near their security entrance but it's really from inside the hq's.

  i doubt the org.

  will be happy that this was taped and leaked.https://rutube.ru/video/2dbc8185062524a41ed8c9e2117ca39d/.

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  Since this was leaked, I wonder if it means there are a few people awake at Warwick.

  And I wonder what else they can leak...
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  Are Beards becoming more acceptable due to decline in membership?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.

  when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.

  but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.

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  As people have said, nothing has changed.

  There are exceptions in a few countries. Everywhere else, there are maverick JWs, but it is likely they will not qualify to be a ministerial servant or elder. If they somehow do, it is a very rare thing, like spotting a woman carrying a microphone in a Kingdom Hall. It's happened, but it's like spotting a rare animal outside it's native habitat roaming your neighborhood.

  Watchtower has most recently, like it's always done, discouraged beards, all the while seeming to say it is okay.
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  Crises of Conscience latest, plus : a solution for reading it legally, courtesy of u/ziddina

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently, someone who knows deborah drexler, the current copyright holder of cofc, asked her if she will consider having it published again.

  her response was:.

  " i will have to ask jesus"!!!!!.

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  I can't help but think how many knowledgeable people in the exJW community could help her out without asking a penny.

  The lack of transparency is disturbing.