Wow, one learns something new everyday.
Now NOI is being influenced by Scientology and Farrakhan is all into Dianetics.
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i did not know before that the nation of islam had a 1914 belief that was akin to that of jws.. i thought this was interesting is all.. does anyone know whether this is a current teaching of theirs?
(googling it myself now...) but just thought i would throw it out to the knowledgeable crowd here..... -eduardo
Wow, one learns something new everyday.
Now NOI is being influenced by Scientology and Farrakhan is all into Dianetics.
look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.
now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.
I watched the video and am highly skeptical of that the leaders of the Watchtower practice any such thing.
At best, if the story in the video is true, it just sounds like a maverick Bethelite with very out there beliefs. I don’t undertand why as a gung-ho Bethelite, he didn’t immediately get up and run when he talked about spiritism and report him to the Bethel elders. That is what a mentally-in JW is indoctrinated to do.
All the other links is based on supposition upon supposition. There are far too facts to draw a conclusion.
I watched the second video as well on the subject and was hoping that he would clarify matters, as I was trying to keep an open mind. Or that perhaps he would produce the mysterious notebook. But he says he’s only going to talk about it for people who call or text him.
I agree with a previous post. Why would any gung-ho JW keep something that was supposed to be connected with spiritism? It doesn’t seem to add up.
so this is just a general question.
call it curiosity.. what sort of phobias do we have?
heights?
Maybe not a phobia, but I've social anxiety. And I avoid talking on the phone. I also have anxiety in interacting with my father.
When I'm outside, I don't like lightning, but when I'm indoors I'm fine.
it could be argued that all jws are weird.
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i’m referring to really weird odd witnesses.. most of the oddballs that i remember were elders..
I'm sure many JWs thought I was weird. I was always excluded.
come to "witness world"!
at our new lakeside corporate resort we have a bible museum!
take a picture with caleb and sofia!
This is not new.
Companies for Bethel tourism (as well as for International Conventions) have been around a long time.
here in australia, during the service meeting this week, the local needs part was taken up to quickly discuss a letter from the organization stating that there will no longer be a annual meeting part to discuss or remind the congregations about their blood cards.. i found this quite odd.. its not like that there is a shortage of meeting time to discuss this issue, as the society has recently been hijacking more and more local needs parts for its own messages.
and for a supposedly important doctrine, you would think that it should be mentioned more often rather than less, to keep everyone in line.. could this be a beginning of the movement away from the blood doctrine, through the process of gradualism?.
no-zombie .
i saw this on jw reddit and thought, okay that will just be one of the protesters videotaping near their security entrance but it's really from inside the hq's.
i doubt the org.
will be happy that this was taped and leaked.https://rutube.ru/video/2dbc8185062524a41ed8c9e2117ca39d/.
Since this was leaked, I wonder if it means there are a few people awake at Warwick.
And I wonder what else they can leak...
i noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.
when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.
but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.
As people have said, nothing has changed.
There are exceptions in a few countries. Everywhere else, there are maverick JWs, but it is likely they will not qualify to be a ministerial servant or elder. If they somehow do, it is a very rare thing, like spotting a woman carrying a microphone in a Kingdom Hall. It's happened, but it's like spotting a rare animal outside it's native habitat roaming your neighborhood.
Watchtower has most recently, like it's always done, discouraged beards, all the while seeming to say it is okay.
recently, someone who knows deborah drexler, the current copyright holder of cofc, asked her if she will consider having it published again.
her response was:.
" i will have to ask jesus"!!!!!.
I can't help but think how many knowledgeable people in the exJW community could help her out without asking a penny.
The lack of transparency is disturbing.
i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.
i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.
help a former brother out.
This has been in the JW mythos for a long, long time. And that is, during the great tribulation, the “door would close”. Then JWs would cease preaching the good news and preach a message of judgement, basically telling people they were going to die.
There’s a verse in Revelation that talks about hailstones raining down, each one weighing a talent. Watchtower interprets this as the hard hitting message they would preach to people during the tribulation.
Of course, the 2018 change has nothing to do with it. But JWs are always looking at tealeaves in the pages of the Watchtower.