Londo111

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  What is it like to have that one true friend?

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what is it like to have that one true friend?

  growing up in the org, i never really had friends.

  i had many acquaintances, some of which were worldly.

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  I thought I had that "friend sticking closer than a brother". After learning TTATT, I realized that friendship was merely fool's gold.
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  Our assembly expenses were $16,900 for ONE DAY - Please share yours

  by nmthinker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ~2300 in attendance.

  one day cost of $16,900!.

  this was at romeoville, which was built ground up in the 90's and was fully paid for by the illinois circuits!.

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  Mother needs $$$
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  Your thoughts on the new Star Wars?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so i've thought for a while now that jj has the lowest bar to clear in cinema history.

  all he has to do is make a movie that's not as bad as the prequels.

  but upon viewing the recent trailers, it looks like he's actually got the "feel" of the originals down.

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  I'm hopeful and keeping an open mind. The trailers look great!
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  What kind of poster are you?

  by DogGone in

  1. social
  2. humour

  a while ago someone posted a link to the flame warrior guide, it seeks to define some different types of posters.

  http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/.

  i thought it might be fun and lighten the current mood to reveal which "warrior" is closest to your style, in your opinion.

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  I guess I've become a lurker! I generally try to stay out of disputes.
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  This just in new policy bethel

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i called bethel recently asking a question.

  the question was do you have a bible example of someone that showed pricipled love to anothet human by giving them the silent treament for months?

  answer well bro are you a jw yes well we will aens the elders over to help you.

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  Londo111

  Not a new policy. That is business as usual.

  It's an effective cult mechanism to eliminate those asking questions that cannot be asked or answered.
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  Please could you give me your opinions on this statement? . . .

  by Miss Worldly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  'i have prayed, and confessed my sins to my god, i'm not telling them (the elders) anything'.

  .. could this be a significant sign that there maybe a small dent in the armour of an active jw?

  or is it just a case of 'keep your nose out' ?

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  I wish I had been so smart! Instead I put my head in the lion's mouth.

  According to the elder's handbook, if it turns out an elder has done something worthy of a judicial committee before his appointment, and several years have elapsed, then not only might he escape a judicial committee, he might retain his position.

  If I had known this bit from the elder's handbook, I would have never come forward as a rank and file member and voluntary confessed private matters to those who in reality have no business hearing what I'd rather keep private, much less trying me for it.
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  Theocratic Warfare

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no doubt we noticed the royal commission ask vin toole (and i think terry o'brien) about the expression "theocratic warfare"?.

  they were asked to explain it and what is meant to witnesses.. vin outrightly lied when he said he "had never heard of that expression!".

  i remember him using that term in conversations and talks many times!!

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  So if I understand that...lying IS NOT "misrepresenting or distorting facts", "omitting key information to deceive", or "exaggerating the truth" IF someone isn't "entitled
  to know the truth".

  Of course, who is not "entitled to know the truth"? Whoever Watchtower decides is not entitled. That loophole could give someone licence to lie...but redefine the word so that they are not "lying".

  
  
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  Is my friend on the way out of the organisation?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i left the watchtower i realised it was best to put friendships on hold.

  however i mentioned to my best friend that i didn't agree with how they handled child abuse issues and that was one of the reasons i left.. anyway as i am fortunate and own two rental apartments and he is a plumber so we have kept in contact, in that i email him when i require his services and he sends me the invoice.

  anyway i am now dissociated, but yesterday i emailed him about a pluming problem, and he replied.. " sorry we missed going to the indian ( this was a comment made about us having a meal together about 9 months ago, which i backed out of because i felt he was too indoctrinated and i had not disassociated myself) anyway his email continued:-.

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  Renew the friendship! If they are willing to associate with you despite you being DAed, that is awesome! They might be waking up.
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  Disfellowshipping Sounds Wonderful to Me Now

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  2 people were read out last week as disfellowshipped.

  of course now the announcement is read "so and so is no longer one of jehovahs witnesses".

  they read that statement twice, once for each of the names.

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  It might sound fun, but it can hurt like nothing else, especially if the people being DFed has any sort of belief in the organization. Even for someone awake, the pain of shunning can be unbearable. I speak from experience on both fronts.
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  We talk a lot about conditional friends on here

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, when people post about being shunned by their friends, i've heard several posters say things like, "their friendship is conditional.

  real friendships aren't conditional.".

  i'm sorry, but that just isn't really true.. if you and i were friends, there are conditions.

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  Londo111

  I believe most people speak of these things in the conventional, relative meaning, rather than in the absolute literal.

  BTW…having gone through divorce and so forth, THEN a year later having gone through being shunned by everyone I knew including family, I’m not sure a friend sleeping with my wife would automatically be a dealbreaker for either my friendship or marriage. Of course, I’ve never had that specific experience, so I can’t say for sure. But being shunning made me reevaluate things. Apart from physical violence or sexual assault, isolating someone is one of the most worst things you can do to a person.