NewYork44M

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  another kingdom hall closing

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this one in avon lake ohio 25 miles west of cleveland.

  only one congregation there.

  average attendance was only 40..

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
  
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  Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.

  sounded good.. what is the reality?

  how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.

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  Another factor to consider is the aging population of JWs. These are people who have no plans for retirement and are forced to rely on Social Security. This automatically puts this group into a poverty state.
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  Which Org 'directives' did you blatantly ignore

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember that we were always encouraged to let everyone at work know that you were one of jw's and therefore would not participate in any of their functions, parties etc.. this i outrightly refused to do.

  my reasoning was that i was employed and paid to do a job and therefore my religious beliefs were a personal matter and therefore had nothing to do with my work.

  secondly i had to work with these people.

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  I ignored the directive related to no education. I continued to pursue an advanced degree even as an elder.

  I never told anyone, if they found out I would simply say that I was taking some classes required by my employer - and then change the subject.
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  What if Jesus Christ was not put to death by the Romans but instead died a natural death?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to christianity, the death of jesus was a miscarriage of justice.

  so then, what if there was no so-called miscarriage of justice so that jesus was not put to death by the romans but he instead died a natural death?

  would christians still receive the forgiveness of their sins and their hoped for salvation?.

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  Give your scenario, since he was not condemned by Adamic sin, he should still be alive today.
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  Ridiculous ways you kept your "time going" in service?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i used to go out early mornings with 2 pioneer elders, we would drive 20 miles out of the territory (a big no-no) to look for hikers to preach to lol of course there were never any hikers.

  then off to starbucks for another hour lol easy way to count 2-4 hours.

  i am chuckling as i write this, what a joke!.

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  I hated working with those overzealous time keeps who had their own set of rules. Nothing sucked more than being in a car group where this idiot started spouting rules like not counting idle time, and the 15 minute break rule. My uncle was so strict that he only counted time when he was talking someone. He thought it was wrong to count time walking between doors and not-at-homes.

  On the flip side, I remember spending the morning and half a Saturday afternoon driving around making worthless visits to friendly people who had no interest in the religion. It really didn't matter because there was nothing about these calls that would suggest the purpose was to promote a religion. Not even sure they knew what religion we were.
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  2016 annual meeting

  by obarac in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a few minutes till the start ..... we hope for a news from absalom and wifibandit very soon.. wifibandit, any tread on reddit for am?.

  also there were some info about live stream.

  any news about that..

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  three of the older ones will have to be removed

  Were these songs disfellowshipped? Was an announcement made that they are no longer jehovah's witnesses?

  
  
  
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  2016 annual meeting

  by obarac in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a few minutes till the start ..... we hope for a news from absalom and wifibandit very soon.. wifibandit, any tread on reddit for am?.

  also there were some info about live stream.

  any news about that..

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  Yawn - Yawn
  

  
  
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  Elder's remark about contributions not being made

  by Simon Templar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am still in and was assigned to collect the contribution after the meeting.

  i checked the boxes with another brother and there was nothing inside.

  no contributions were made that day.

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  Most contributions come from a few within the congregation. These ones usually set aside a certain amount every month and write a single check. I would not expect they would see a steady flow at each meeting.
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  Counting time

  by Emma in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.

  i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.

  yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.

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  Emma, you may be

  disgusted that anyone thinks this really is witnessing.

  I, on the other hand, am jealous. Why did I not think of that trick when I was trying to "get my time in."
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  Why Marrying An Outsider Is NOT A Disfellowshipping "Offense"

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so yeah, i was thinking about this.

  marrying an unbeliever is considered to be wrong, but at the same time, it is not a disfellowshipping "offense".

  well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by not disfellowshipping.

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  I cannot recall anyone getting disfellowshipped. However, these ones were "marked."