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  Will I be disfellowshippwd

  by Sydney in

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  y'all i am an unmedicated bipolar.

  i had a mania streak and slept with my bf who is of the world.

  i am pregnant from this.

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  Walter

  Please do not try to make important decisions while being mentally unstable. Try to sort things out: What do you really want?

  Do you want to continue your relationship with your boyfriend? (And does your friend want to continue relationship although you are pregnant?) If so, it will be hardly possible for you to repent having slept with him.

  Do you want to keep being a JW? Elders won't disfellowship you if they are convinced that you do repent your sin, especially if they are convinced that you were not fully responsible for your actions because of your bipolar disorder.

  Do you neither want to be a JW, nor want to be disfellowshipped? Annulation of baptism may be possible if elders are convinced that you did have a sexual relationship with your boyfriend continuously in the weeks and days before AND after baptism. It may help if they are convinced that you were not fully responsible for your baptism because of your bipolar disorder. (Addendum, based on your update: There is no chance to annulate baptism if sin was not immediately before baptism, but only after baptism.)
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  The coup against Tony Morris in order to make major changes?

  by Badfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s been a long time since i’ve kept up with anything jw-related.

  but just a couple days ago, i heard about all the new changes—beards, shunning, etc.

  i was surprised, so i asked an old friend who i hadn’t spoken to in ages what happened.

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  Walter

  the GB had been wanting to make changes for many years, but old Tony would veto them at every turn.

  If 8 GB members are pro beards and 1 member is against, last month 's announcement would not have been possible??
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

  the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

  i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

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  Walter

  A few of OP`s speculations may soon become true. But I believe some of his speculations to be utter nonsense.

  "JWs will in time, be allowed by conscience to wear tattoos or piercings." -> JWs are already allowed to wear tattoos, see ijwbq50

  "Taking of drugs ... will no longer be considered disfellowshipping." -> No way that 2 Corinthians 6:17-7:1 will be abandoned. Lot of JWs are proud of having stopped smoking and taking drugs. They would never understand if such practices would be declared to be acceptable.

  "the Governing Body will issue a statement that different forms of sex within marriage (such as oral and anal) are now permissable" -> GB has already issued such a statement 46 years ago. (W78 2/15)

  "private consensual intimacy and sex between adults of the opposite sex will be a conscience matter, as long as vaginal sex and pregnancy is not involved" -> Such redefination of the meaning of porneia is absolutely impossible for JWs. Lot of currently loyal JWs would not accept authority of GB anymore and would leave the org.
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  Is a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses marries a disfellowshipped person, what is the outcome?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello all.. i need a quick answer, and also a solid reference in the literature, please.. if a jw marries an unbeliever, there is reproof, it's frowned upon, it's disloyal, there will be loss of privileges, etc, but there's no other more serious consequences.

  but, in a scenario where two people are free to marry, but one is a baptized jw and the other is disfellowshipped / disassociated, what are the consequences?.

  thanks for your help.. r..

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  Walter

  I need a quick answer, and also a solid reference in the literature, please
  

  According to "Shepherd the flock" book, a judicial committee has to be formed, if member of congregation is continuously having close conduct with a disfellowshipped person not part of family. (sfl chapter 12, "brazen conduct")

  And i guess it is impossible that a JC get's convinced of such a person's repentance in case of marriage; so he/she will be disfellowshipped for sure.
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  Walter

  Still having growth 3% in Germany, 6% in Ireland, 2% in Austria, 6% in Czech Republic and so on is pretty remarkable at this point

  Indeed, they are doing better than lot of other churches in those countries.

  But keep in mind: statistics for service year 2023 Europe were affected by refugees from Ukraine. According to JW news from June 2022, some 23 000 publishers from Ukraine fled to other European countries. They were there underrated in average numbers in service 2022, as they arrived quite late (and often, their publisher records even much later, due to war) in that service year. So for 2023 numbers of JWs, these refugees automatically mean an increase of more than plus 1% in lot of European countries.
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  Walter

  I see no strategy.

  I see no sense in the change.

  1.) The change has nothing to do with legally protecting the org. Otherwise, they would stop pioneers from reporting as well.
  

  2.) Since restarting of public preaching activities after COVID-19, the biggest challenge for congregations has been to bring publishers to do door to door witnessing again. That's what CO's meetings with elders and MSs have been about all over the world in the last six months. And it were the detailed reports that identified that massive challenge for the org: Who has not been actively out for service in territory, but simply continued to craft some witness cards at home as done during pandemics? The lot of publishers who have been monthly reporting some hours without anymore reporting any placements/any return visits at all. So to stop detailed reporting foils PIMI elders' efforts to encourage those publishers to restart door to door witnessing.

  3.) Even among elders and ministerial servants, there are quite a lot who have not yet restarted door to door service to the same extent they had done before COVID-19. So I personally was expecting that some elders and ministerial servants would have been deleted within next one or two years due to their lack of seal in field service. To stop detailed reporting makes it unnecessary or even impossible to delete such elders. But, of course, on a long run, this can't be a positive development for JWs' preaching activities.

  4.) When org paused pioneers' hours goal during COVID-19 pandemic, many pioneers reduced their amount of time spent for preaching activities dramatically. This was a clear proof that lot of preaching work before had not been done due to unconditional love to Jehovah and to people in territory, but due to some social pressure in connection with hour goals and reporting. So the org knows well that to stop. detailed reporting will reduce hours spent in field service.

  5.) First reactions in congregations to yesterday's announcement seem to be mixed. A lot of publishers appreciate this. But others start asking: why does the org create now an additional barrier between publishers and pioneers? Are publishers' hours worthless as only pioneers' hours have to be reported? Stopping detailed reporting would have been a chance to eliminate status-orientated way of thinking ("he is pioneer" vs. "he is just a publisher"). This opportunity has been missed; even worse, the gap between pioneers and rest of congregation will increase.
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  Disfellowshipped for Fornication

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

  i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

  i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

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  Walter

  You wrote:

  "But there was no reason to come forward with it. The matter was resolved when we married."

  If you said similar things to JC, it is clear that they had to disfellowship you due to lack of repentance. Marriage did just mean that you stopped committing sins, but marriage did not mean that the matter was resolved.

  Just as an example: Someone goes to supermarket and commits shoplifting. The next day, again he goes to supermarket and commits shoplifting. The day after, again, he goes to supermarket and commits shoplifting. On the fourth day, he goes to supermarket and buys some goods regularly, without shoplifting. Does this really mean that now, on day 4, he has resolved his previous crimes? No, he just stopped sinning. But repentance would bring him to confess his previous sins.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  Walter

  Spreading of rumors and suspicion as done by ExbethelitenowPIMA is disgusting.
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  JW words ph rases I don't recall seeing in the Bible

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was trying to think of some common jw words and phrases i don't think are in the bible .. new world order new system spiritual israel governing body channel of communication organization reporting time pioneer aux pioneer circuit overseer kingdom hall circuit assembly district convention....,maybe you can think of something to add if you are inclined..

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  Walter

  "New" scrolls will be opened.
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  Get vaccinated and boosted new document for elders only

  by llubrevlis2000 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  table of contents.

  overview 1-2. safety precautions 3-5. get vaccinated and boosted take extra health precautions watch for symptoms 5. missed classroom instruction 6 maintain a spiritual outlook 7. overview.

  3 4. safety precautions for attending theocratic schools.

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  Walter

  Initial post claims to cite S-294: "individuals need to get the latest COVID-19 vaccine booster shots."

  This is not true.

  In fact, S-294 says: "individuals should consider getting the latest COVID-19 vaccine booster shots."

  Booster is recommended, but not required.