Slavery pure and simpler which uses all of the above to get their work done for a hollow promise that they know they can't deliver.
trailerfitter
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How many ways....
by Lady Lee in... can you name that the wts hurts people?.
two big ones for me:.
it pushes people to the edge and when they commit suicide they say: "well he wasn't really a jw anyways soit has nothing to do with us".. it pushes people so much to do more and more and more that they get depressed, and physically sick.
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Just found some convincing videos that are making me reconsider my non-theist ideas
by cantleave inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4kmwqtlrqo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpnlg2ks8ys.
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trailerfitter
Laugh out loud.
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If Abraham had never lived...No Jewish nation, no Islam, no christianity
by Aussie Oz ini guess the guy really did, that he did as the bible says and that he fathered the jewish nation, fathered by extension islam and christianity as well.
maybe he really did, because well, we have that trinity of belief systems existing that we cannot deny.. pretend with for a moment that he never did though.
lets pretend that the jewish nation never came to be, that the koran thus never got written, that the ot never got written, there was no jewish saviour prophecies uttered and that humanity made it through the last 4000 years or so without either of those three and their offshoots like christianity.. what would history be like?.
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trailerfitter
Empires have risen and fallen, but with each change has left it's legacy. You only need to see the English version of the days of the weeks' names to realise that part of history still remains and we use it every day with really knowing why the days are named after Norse gods.
Pagan festvals remain due to christianiity although many would argue other wise.
We still have society that was more or less organsied by the Romans even the calendar reflects this.
Christianity will eventually pass away along with the other religions but wll leave its mark on humanity. If Abraham didn't exsist then sooner or later someone would have come up with the the God that is bigger than all the other Gods to use as a beating stick and a justification to impose their lifestyle onto others.
Hopefully huminity is coming into the light by slowly realising the stone age religion does not fit todays culture...
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JW.org reports on the Sandy Hook shooting...
by cedars infrom the official jw website.... .
school shooting in connecticutdecember 17, 2012 | united states.
on friday, december 14, 2012, a shooting took place at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut.
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trailerfitter
Cedars, although i have never been a JW the organisation affects my life through my child and i respect your views and attempts to stop the disease spreading.
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JW.org reports on the Sandy Hook shooting...
by cedars infrom the official jw website.... .
school shooting in connecticutdecember 17, 2012 | united states.
on friday, december 14, 2012, a shooting took place at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut.
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trailerfitter
I watched a DVD about the purple triangles with my wife and she was so excited that the JWs had told this story that they had been involved.. Although it is a real tragedy which involved all manner of people in society not just the JWs it was so sad to see it as just an opportunity for the WTBT$ to self promote.
It is the same as the statement that cedars put up there at the start of this thread... the watchtower are only concerned with thier own and like many religious organisations who have already expressed their thoughts on this tragedy it is just an opportunity to self promote.
How many athiest children would have been missed by the bullets? proportionally a high amount since they are even a smaller minority than the JWs in the school system.
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How important is evidence to your world view?
by snare&racket inhow important is evidence to your world view?.
if you had to make a decision on a fact being true, what would be the deciding factor for you... your feelings and faith, scriptural statement or evidence presented by modern science?.
would scripture trump evidence, or would faith trump scripture etc .
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trailerfitter
I once had a metaphysical view about the world until I realised that most of it was made up. Science has taken humanity further with medicene in 60 years than any faith has given in 2000 years. If science can put a man on the moon, measure and actually see the physicla universe than I am of th opinion that they are not trying to expell god out of any universe. Just god happens to be ,...well. Just absent.
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JW's just called
by l p inthe jws just called.
they are new to the congregation since i left in 2002/3.. they were offering a dvd for deaf people to 'learn what god requires of me".
i said there were no deaf people here.. the other guy that was just standing there asked if there were deaf people in this area.
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trailerfitter
Would be odd if they offered a DVD for blind people?
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An atheists grieve
by Borges ini'm reading here almost every day (kind of adicted i think).
but due to the fact, that my english isn't very good, i abstain from commenting most of the time.. nevertheless i'd like to share some thoughts with you.. .
when i learned the tatt over a year ago i quickly became an atheist.
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trailerfitter
Why settle for christian beliefs? Reincarnation is another way of seeing life as an ever ending cycle. I am atheist afraid to die but not afraid to not have an afterlife. Imagine having to praise god for an eternity? I'd rather not.
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Keeping secrets "please don't tell your father". Now this is war!!
by trailerfitter inwhat detriment is there of religious study for children?
children learn religions at school and hopefully here in the uk they are taught a balanced unbias view on all religious beliefs pacticed in the world leading to a more harmonious and less separate world.. it should be safe to assume that the jw teachings wouldn't be any different...open and honest.
(okay no need to spit your coffee out onto the monitor screen in surprise!!).
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trailerfitter
Thanks Mr Flipper,. i know of Mr Hassan and will look on the site now. Watching a recent series on the BBC about Adolf Hitler, his charisma and how he organised the German people the tactics are the same as the indoctrination into any cult like religious organisation. He made the German people think they were elite, he told them there was only one true leader. His influence over the German nation included indoctrinating from a very early age of boys who were to die for Germany knowing they would live on in the spirit of Germany. Scary, and one can see what is in common with the WTBT$ and its blinkering of their followers..
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trailerfitter
If you think that we actually evolved and this made by god is just a way of explaining things that bronze age people said then perhaps it really wouldn't matter.
If on the other hand we had developed beyond biblical morality and the cruelty of Jehovah who over reacted when punishing his creation beyond reason then i guess now perhaps jehovah should be workin gout a way of appologising to the human race for over acting.
Most HUMAN contemporary fathers would not consider expelling their child for a minor misdamenor or over react in such a crazy manner. Jehovah as described in the bible is nothing more than a spoilt child who must get his way no matter what...What would society recon to Jehovahs if he was infact a person.