braincleaned
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Any Fader Disfellowshipped in later Years?
by braincleaned inhi!.
hey, did anyone here ever get disfellowshipped after years of fading, because of having been discovered online saying crap about the wts and/or the gb?.
just wondering... you know they are following these sites....
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Needed reminder...
by braincleaned inif there was any proof that "new light" is a cop-out for being sinfully wrong, i wanted to recall this amazing thread by jimmypage, with evidence of deciet and dishonesty from the borg.
it is disgusting.. .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/174077/1/1975-coverup-compare-the-68-and-81-truth-book-scans#.ulswpwtf0i8.
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Ah! They DID slip in the words Governing Body!
by braincleaned inyep!
they did slip in the words governing body in the new revised nwt!.
page 1459, in the highlights of acts 15!
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Food for thought
by braincleaned inwhy is it said that we "inherited" sin?
we all know the old 'dented cake mold' illustration... but it doesn't follow logic.. .
it was obviously not obligatory that we "inherited" sin.
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Changing the Goalposts
by braincleaned increationists are not consistant with their otherwise apparant logic:.
nothing comes from nothing check .
everything has a beginning check .
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My thoughts on Belief.
by braincleaned init would be a grave mistake to imagine we can change the convictions of anyone even thru the most persuasive arguments we can muster.
fact is, we are wired to deal with our cognitive dissonance by catering to it thru confirmation bias.. anything that contradicts our cherished beliefs will be rationalized against, or simply categorized as untrue.
if any logical fallacy is detected on either side it will be used as if a bad argument is automatically proof of a false one (which is a fallacy in itself, amusingly called the "fallacy fallacy").. either way, nobody has changed cherished beliefs on a presumingly lost argument.. but all the rhetoric is not fruitless.
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Logic for a bad illustration
by braincleaned inas most of us have heard jehovah is compared to a parent that lets his children go thru a painful surgery to save their lives.
this illustration is often used to explain why the mayhem and pain we suffer today.. .
i respond with a bit of basic logic and ask the one using this lame illustration if he or she would still opt for the painful surgery if he or she could miraculously save their child's life if they had ther power to do so?.
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Do you Trust the writings of 2,000 years ago?
by braincleaned indo you trust the bible, and it's scientific accuracy on creation for example.. do you believe it still holds moral values, expressed in the perfect example of it's god?.
do you believe in it's prophesies?.
then let me invite you to doctor holymann's hospital.. you can trust him with your child's or your own surgery and medicine.. he has ignored all the nonsense of modern medical science, and still operates on the knowledge he has from 2,000 years ago.. .
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Food For Logical Thought...
by braincleaned insometimes we waste hours and hours debating a subject like the flood, and the impossible scientific and evolutionary consequences that it entails.
we go into great debates about how all of is is possible, what a "kind" means (species, obviously not)... etc.... but believers will not stop believing... so here is something even a child would think of more logically:if god is all powerful and love why would he have not just made the wicked drop dead, painlessly?
simply, humanly.
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Deuteronomy 18: 20-22 and the FDS's failed prophesies.
by braincleaned inwhen jw's come to my door, i don't tell them i am an ex, just because they will move on and you will not have helped them see the obvious.. so i show them this scripture, and the new wt of july 2013 makes it even easier to confirm that new light is just moving the goalposts.. if jehovah really exists, they are in for some heavy crapstorm from him!.
deuteronomy 18: 20-22:.
20however, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that i have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die.. 21and in case you should say in your heart: how shall we know the word that jehovah has not spoken?.