Nothing like a major crisis to scare people back in line...
Posts by Ding
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26Great Trib is Starting!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara injust received a text yesterday...lovebombing to return with so called proof of the gt starting...scaremongering at its peak!.
"hey.
missing you at the meetings.
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Ding
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Testing For Transparency - An Honesty Check
by Vanderhoven7 inplease share any other yes/no questions that might fit with the following 10. also feel free to critique the 10 listed.. testing for transparency.
there are some facts that jehovah's witnesses are reticent to divulge to new prospects.
you may want to find out very early in your discussions if the witnesses you are studying with are open and truthful about their organization's doctrine and practices by asking them a series of sensitive (potentially embarrassing) questions about their personal beliefs.
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Ding
How do you know that what you are being taught as truth today won't be dismissed as "old light" next month?
Does that uncertainty trouble you at all?
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The memorial-buffet style
by lastmanstanding ini was being silly at home and suggested this to family.
you know, put the wine and crackers on a table and everyone cycle through and touch the idols followed by a hand wipe sheet.. ...and then i thought, that’s what the catholics do, buffet style!.
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Ding
Since almost no one partakes of anything at the Memorial, why have anyone present at all?
Those who want their indoctrination can listen to previous talks (they're all the same) online.
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Why the change?
by Fadeaway1962 inpossible cancelling the memorial after years of experiences of bro/sis under nazi , communist oppression and many other countries still conducting the memorial under threat of death that the governing body is listening to the superior authorities regarding this virus pandemic.. could it be that after taking control of the k/halls that the branch/governing body would be responsible for any disobedience to the civil authorities and liable for any deaths.. they would have left upto the local body of elders and encouraged obedience to god rather than men and a lack of faith in jehovah to protect his people..
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Ding
The might as well put it online.
Almost no one partakes anyway.
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How was it possible that some members fall asleep or nod off during meetings?
by RULES & REGULATIONS ina while back, we had a saturday wedding reception for a brother and sister from our kingdom hall.
the reception ended at midnight.
most of us got home at around 1:00 a.m. our sunday public talk meeting started at 9:30 a.m. .
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Ding
I feel sorry for the children that have to sit through that.
No choice.
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How was it possible that some members fall asleep or nod off during meetings?
by RULES & REGULATIONS ina while back, we had a saturday wedding reception for a brother and sister from our kingdom hall.
the reception ended at midnight.
most of us got home at around 1:00 a.m. our sunday public talk meeting started at 9:30 a.m. .
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Ding
They've heard the same message so many times...
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My wife PIMI wife said today...." The Tribulation has started"
by goingthruthemotions inmy wife pimi wife said today...." the tribulation has started" i was like wtf... i know things are bad.
but...... we have had other pandamics and market crashes in the past.
1889: russian flu 360,000 perished.
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Ding
1. Ask her to show you where the Watchtower has explicitly said this. (Make clear you're not interested in what Elder Know-It-All says. You want to see where "the faithful and discreet slave" has said it.) If she can't produce that, isn't she running ahead of Jehovah's chariot? Isn't it wrong to do that?
2. If she produces some WT publication where this is actually stated, ask her how she will view things if it turns out NOT to be the tribulation after all.
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Donating Blood a Disfellowshipping Offense?
by HiddenPimo inwhen i served as an elder i never heard of this scenario presenting itself - giving blood.. has anyone heard of a judicial case where a person donated and was disfellowshipped?
are there any references to this in the jw publications, manuals, handbooks?.
not so hiddenpimo :-).
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Ding
The October 15, 2000 WT has an article which states, "Nevertheless, Jehovah’s Witnesses respect the principles God included in it, and they are determined to ‘abstain from blood.’ Hence, we do not donate blood, nor do we store for transfusion our blood that should be ‘poured out.’ That practice conflicts with God’s law."
It doesn't mention DFing and I don't know if anything has changed now that fractions are acceptable.
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Coronavirus
by Iamallcool inare the dubs talking about coronavirus as a sign that big a is coming very soon?
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Ding
To a JW, everything is a sign that Armageddon is imminent.
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Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not
by Research inhello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.
a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.
so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.
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Ding
Some JWs have asked heartfelt questions of COs or elders only to be told, "We aren't here to answer your questions."
Instead of the help they were looking for, they find themselves in an inquisition which centers on the question of whether they still believe the WT is God's organization and the GB the faithful and discreet slave.
I hope you are treated better, but I'm not optimistic.
Please realize that the organization has no good answers for the questions you are asking.