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  Why do some people who were trapped in the WT and wake up, still believe in the Bible God who allowed them to be deceived for years.

  by pistolpete in

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  2. beliefs

  why do some people who were trapped in the wt and wake up after much frustration and anger that they were lied to, still believe in the bible god who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.

  i have an acquaintance who is a lot older than me and for the past 30 years he has been out of the watchtower religion and is sola scriptura.

  sola scriptura is a theological doctrine that posits the christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for christian faith and practice.

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  PistolPete,

  In the words of lawyer Bill Clinton, "It all depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is..."
  
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  Why do some people who were trapped in the WT and wake up, still believe in the Bible God who allowed them to be deceived for years.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why do some people who were trapped in the wt and wake up after much frustration and anger that they were lied to, still believe in the bible god who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.

  i have an acquaintance who is a lot older than me and for the past 30 years he has been out of the watchtower religion and is sola scriptura.

  sola scriptura is a theological doctrine that posits the christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for christian faith and practice.

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  Pistolpete,

  Is it possible for anyone to write something that is so clear that human beings can't twist or misinterpret it?

  The more words a writer uses to avoid misunderstanding, the more chances there are that someone will read something into those words that wasn't intended.

  I personally have published a number of things (articles and the like), and invariably people have demonstrated a capacity (whether deliberately or inadvertently) to mischaracterize (sometimes greatly mischaracterize) what I wrote.
  
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Wrong Regarding Staying Out of Politics?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  we were told we were part of the world if we got involved in politics.

  if we had employment that had political involvement we were instructed to get another job.

  we were told we might be considered disassociated if we voted and then it became questionable.

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  Ding

  Rutherford got "new light" that the superior authorities of Romans 13 were Jehovah and Jesus, not the worldly governments (as taught by Christendom).

  After he died, Knorr got newer light that they were the government authorities after all.

  So instead of getting brighter and brighter, on this issue it was a strobe light.

  I'm reminded of this statement from the May 15, 1976 Watchtower:

  "It is a serious matter to represent God and Christ in one way, then find that our understanding of the major teachings and fundamental doctrines of the Scriptures was in error, and then after that, to go back to the very doctrines that, by years of study, we had thoroughly determined to be in error. Christians cannot be vacillating—‘wishy-washy’—about such fundamental teachings. What confidence can one put in the sincerity or judgment of such persons?"
  
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  Should I continue to help an "unbelieving" husband?

  by RiverPeace in

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  2. friends

  i know there are a lot of 'wise heads' out there on this forum - so i would appreciate your suggestions.. several years ago, i studied with a guy, whose wife is a jw.

  (he had studied with several elders before i came along).

  the study went reasonably well.

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  This might depend on how confident you are that you can show him contradictions between WT teachings and the Bible.

  Be especially careful not to get sucked into the WT yourself.

  If you decide to give it a go, remember that questions work better than statements.

  Don't try to prove anything to him; let him prove to you that the WT is right. After all, he thinks they have the truth and it's his job to teach you.

  If you want to take a biblical approach, you might look for resources to help you.

  I'd recommend Rhodes' book, Reasoning from the Scriptures with the Jehovah's Witnesses or Englund's book, Getting Through to Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Both are available on Amazon.
  
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  What JW Subjects Interest You The Most On This Site? What Doesn’t??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i like subjects that delve into the history of the religion and proofs that the witnesses are not the true religion.

  i’m not so much into apologists saying we need to go to meetings, especially if the poster looks like a scammer trying to get ex jws going.

  what subjects interest you ?

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  Ding

  Even though many -- maybe most of -- us here are now well informed about WT theology and issues, there are always new ones joining the forum who are trying to sort through all of it.

  I want to be of as much help as I can, being thankful for the people who helped me.
  
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  I received a letter!

  by frozen2018 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a letter from a jw arrived the other day.

  nothing remarkable.

  i wondered why i was sent the letter?

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  Counting time...
  
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  Havent gone to the kingdom hall in ten years but may have to go back...

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  made a big mistake of talking about being raised as a jehovah's witness to some old friends and family.

  people have told me that i am still a jws even though i've never been baptized.

  i'm in school for social services, dealing with student loan debt, and a lot of other debt.

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  Why go back into something you know isn't true and has caused you harm?

  The idea that there is nowhere else to go is part of the WT brainwashing.
  
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  Witnessing letter that has gone viral

  by drzhivago73 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here’s a link to a really cool letter that no witness can dispute.. jw letter.

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  That letter states what JWs believe and would almost be guaranteed to turn off everyone who receives it.
  
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  Did You Fully Buy the WT View of Romans 6:7 (Acquitted of Sin by Dying) ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  romans chapter 6 is about saying goodbye to the old personality, the old man in the king james version.

  the old personality must die, he cannot be fixed.

  the old personality is characterized by dominance of the flesh.

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  I may be wrong, but I think Fred Franz came up with that interpretation of Romans 6:7 as well as the NWT rendering that went with it.
  
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  What useful piece of literature have the JW produced?

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  seeing on another post here about former jws throwing away literature.

  i am curious as to the various opinions on there value.. for me i have been inactive for 3 years almost 4. i still have alot of books and of course all their bibles ever produced (except a few from the 1800s.).

  in my opinion i think there are four books the jws produced that are useful:.

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  Ding

  Most of the old literature is useful for disproving the GB's claims about itself and the organization.

  As ex-elder Leonard Chretien said, "The Watchtower's worst enemy is its own publications."