ok suppose a man met an inactive jw woman.
started dating, had a child.
and throughout his and her relationship there were many ups and downs, drug issues on the womans part , too much drinking on his, she cheats then they find out they are pregnant and move intogether.
Hi DS211, Find a good marriage/cult-exit couselor or a good lawyer. Until someone's emotional baggage is resolved, a person will not change. Marriage/cult-exit counseling will either help the wife resolve her personal baggage or help the husband to realize that he is better off without his wife and should seek to exit the marriage as quickly and painlessly as possible.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
need to put it in writing.
i think of it every day.
i know so many of us have gone through this, but it sure hurts.
Hi mzmmom, You are alive. Your parents may be in a coma or dead. Happy New Year!! Yeah I know that it sucks that your parents are controlled by a dangerous cult, but why waste your life trying to please them.
Are you planning to write to your parents about your feelings? If you are, keep it simple. You love them unconditionally, (worded incase you are not a Christian) there is no sense in continuing to disipline you by shunning you because you would rather believe that Jesus Christ is your mediator with God and not the WTBTS, and life is too short to talk about the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
so while i'm symbolicly burning at the stake for hericy, my wife is getting consoled by the very priests that lit the match.
doesn't get much more ironic then that does it?
i don't know how much longer i can take this.
Hi Crazyguy, I'm sorry that you are going through so much frustration communicating with your wife right now. Could it be that she is afraid that you are too good contradicting the WTBTS's doctrines and therefore causing her cult persona too much cognitive dissonance?
If you still love your wife, what would you do to prove that you love her? How would your wife respond to you texting her, "I love you and want to go on a date with you to have fun together without talking about the WTBTS. I will not put down the WTBTS if you do not talk to me about WTBTS teachings. Life is too short to waste it not talking and sharing our lives together."
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i made a graph of the new members from 2012 to 2013 in all countries that had positive growth, and graphed them against the country's gdp per capita.. .
the general trend is, as expected, less growth the more money there is in a country.
but there were some unexpected results.
Hi ILoveTTATT, Have you thought about normalizing the increase in publishers from number of new publishers to a percentage increase in publishers (or a ratio of new publishers divided by number of publishers in the previous year for a country)? Assuming that the WTBTS's indoctrination methods are equally efficient from country to country, then the percentage of new publishers should not change from country to country, where as the number of new publishers will vary by how many publishers were in a country in the previous year.
Simon does have a valid point about using disposable income instead of average GPD. The following link shows disposable income for some countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_per_capita_personal_income. Unfortunately, fewer countries are listed with disposable income than by using minimum wages by countries in the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country, as I previously suggested that you use.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
when you were in the truth did you find websites like this and read what the other side has to say?
i am in that stage and i feel as if i'm seeking out the ttatt.
i feel the wt society is hiding way too much.
Hi Brother Mike, Do your own independent research of the WTBTS and your beliefs to convince yourself. Then, make a plan how to live the rest of your life the way that you want to and not the way that other people want you to.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
this was just said to me by a friend who was disfellowshipped just over 2 years ago.
she just had a miscarriage, and her partner dumped her rather than supported her through this process.
she told her jw parents, and they refuse to even call her or offer her any emotional support.
Hi Julia Orwell, Your friend's family sounds really messed up. She almost sounds like she is suffering from something like Stockholm syndrome. Since she is your friend, do you want to adopt her into your family?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
ok, i haven't introduced myself properly.
sorry for that, but i just never feel like i've got something really interesting to say.
so i rather respond on topics of other people.
Bruja-del-Sol - We both thought he had a pretty good image of my life when I was a JW, but the movie had great impact on him. It was definitely an eye opener to him.
Hi Bruja-del-Sol, I would be curious what your husband thinks of the other video: Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23) by Steve Hassan. His eyes should really open wide after watching it.
Peace be wtih you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.
most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.
there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.
BTTT
I get sad when a good thread dies. I hope that this one doesn't until there are jwfacts webpages translated into Spanish and there is at least one JWN Spanish language forum.
I hope that volunteers with native-Spanish language skills volunteer to act as translators for jwfacts and as a moderator(s) for JWN. Is it best for volunteers to email jwfacts at [email protected] or use the JWN PM system and to email Simon at simon@jehovahs-witness.com or to use the JWN PM system?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
have been visiting jwn for about a week now and it motivated me to join.
i look forward to meeting everyone i can and learning from their experiences and wisdom as i search for more and more reasons not to get reinstated.
here's most of my story:.
Wecome sunny23, It sounds like you have been on an emotional rollercoaster since 2005. Best of wishes graduating from college.
DITTO what Julia Orwell wrote about reading Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs) and visiting his website www.freedomofmind.com and watching videos on his website like Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23).
By the way I'm curious why you joined, because it seems like a lot of new members joined JWN recently. Does the holidays help people to overcome their fears and join JWN?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
" the secret of good writing is to say an old thing in a new way or a new thing in an old way.".
richard harding davis.
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Fear of being shunned. The WTBTS is a dangerous cult.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
