why can't i say something without someone immature trying to be a smart ass or trying to fight everything i say and use it against me?
comments welcome.
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Hi Brother Mike, JWN is not a KH. JWN members do have opinions, they will write them to you, and it is very difficult to gossip behind your back on JWN. After a few heated threads, you will learn how to avoid conflicts or to at least filter out comments that you do not like. Everyone on JWN is at a different phase of healing from the WTBTS's BITE control.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i would like to thank everyone for the discussions that we've all had.
after all of them i have realized, all of you have made me realized that after all of the stuff i have been through, i just need a good friend.
and regardless of how hostile our discussion could get i have felt that you have all shared something with me that have helped me.
Brother Mike - I just need a good friend. And regardless of how hostile our discussion could get I have felt that you have all shared something with me that have helped me.
Good-bye Brother Mike, If you need a good friend, why are you returning to the WTBTS's conditional love? A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Return as often as you like a stimulating discussion.
Best of wishes finding an unconditional JW friend.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i have recently become friends with some women who belong to a church in my area.
they are fun, great women.
one of them used to be a witness actually but it has been many years.
Hi joyfulfader, What church were you planning to attend? Does the church you were thinking of attending promote shunning of members? Does the church promote giving money for charitable activities like helping to feed or shelter non-members? Are you afraid of being trapped in another dangerous cult like the WTBTS? Establish what your objectives are and independently research any organization that you are thinking of joining to help you overcome your phobias from being a JW.
Instead of going to the church to serve God, how about going to be with friends who you enjoy being with and who do not judge you for your beliefs? How about going to help other people?
If you enjoy helping other people, how about joining a secular non-profit that actually helps feed, clothe, provide shelter for, and/or help educate non-members?
Best of wishes critically thinking for yourself and overcome your WTBTS induced phobias.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
so if you read thru my previous posts from years ago u can see a little background of my life.
to do a quick summary i was df'd at 19, got into the party lifestyle which included party drugs and lots of alcohol.
at 24 i decided to step bacdk and really try to get my life in order.
Hi deservingone26, Write down your plan then execute your plan. You can change your plan as your life and feelings change, but having it written down helps you decide what is really important for you.
For now make a simple plan, like workout instead of drinking, attend free recovery groups to work on your issues, and work hard to save up for a place of your own or to share an apartment with someone who is responsible. As you feel more emotionally, financially, spiritually, physically balanced, then start adding more details to your plan.
Have you read Steve Hassan's books ("Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visited his website www.freedomofmind.com, and/or watched his videos on his website? Your life will get better the more that you critically think for yourself by doing your own independent research. Emotions can be very intoxicating, but you may become very depressed if your emotional decisions are not consistant with what you want out of life. Also, the mormons are a dangerous cult just like the WTBTS.
Best of wishes figuring out how you want to live your life.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
cheese lover here.
i don't post much, so refresher course: i've been dating an unbaptized jw for years.
he's not super into jwism and probably never will be because he thinks a lot of it is a pile of poo.. .
Hi ilikecheese, Enjoy your friend's authentic persona and don't worry about trying to get him to leave the WTBTS. Learn techniques to bring out your friend's authentic persona when his cult persona is in control. Let your friend decide what is best for him.
You have many options to help your friend to critically think for himself and to help his authentic persona be in control of his personality. Invite your friend to do fun activities with you that will help him to meet more non-JWs who he may share common interests. Encourage your friend to get a better education so that he qualifies for a better career. Encourage your friend to use the internet to plan doing fun activities.
If you don't know how to help your friend to critically think for himself, please read Steve Hassan's books ("Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Thnik for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visit his website www.freedomofmind.com, and/or watch his videos on his website. Steve Hassan stresses the importance of unconditionally loving friends and family in dangerous cults.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
my jw (converts of about 5 years) came over on thursday and ate a turkey dinner with us.
we didn't call it thanksgiving, but that was obviously what it was.
they were proud to give me my own copy of the new revised and improved nwt bible.
Happy Holidays Faithful Witness, I'm glad that you enjoyed being with your family during Thanksgiving. When do you plan on planting critical thinking seeds?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
the lead elder co of my hall said he was going to push for a jc meeting.
i could tell all along all hes interested in is protecting his god the org.. so i'm 90% sure now of going on the offesive and first having a family meeting telling them i'm offically quitting and how its going to play out and how i'll will be shunned even though i have commited no sin.
i also may explain a little of why and how i came to this decision with out bashing the org to much out of respect for my wife.
Hi Crazyguy, Have you started bible study nights with your family? Studying the bible with your family may help your wife to understand what you believe and you may be able to show your wife how Jesus Christ felt about how the Pharisees and Sadducees victimized the Jews. Weren't the Pharisees and Sadducees God's channel to the Jews?
Reading Steve Hassan's Books will help you to identify BITE control techniques in the Bible that the Pharisees and Sadducees used to victimize the Jews. Let your wife draw her own conclucions about the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
hey guys :-).
i am soooooo lonely.
i feel as though i have been cheated since all my potential for good friends in high school were taken away as well as now all my witness friends won't talk to me even though i'm not reproved or df.
Hi MsGrowingGirl20, What do you like to do? Do you want to meet girlfriends or boyfriends? The best way to meet new friends is to do something that you are passionate about. Your passion will shine and people will be attracted to you. Search the internet for things that you like to do in your local community. Don't limit your search to meeting religious people, or getting involved with charities. What about singing in a chorus, dancing until the sun rises, going on a vacation, etc.
When you meet new friends, just remember to ask them more questions than you answer and keep your answers shorter than theirs. Think about ways to learn more about your friends and in time tell them more about yourself. People like to talk about themselves and tell other people their opinions, so let them until you decided that you want to be closer friends with them.
Don't waste another minute regretting about your childhood as a JW. Start living your life for yourself.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
many friends i've spoken with are becoming discouraged.
because of this it's becoming tempting to privately share my views with friends, but i know this is still too dangerous.
most witnesses in my circle are intelligent free thinkers.
Hi kneehighmiah, Your best defense is to ask simple questions like you have been doing and showing/telling your friends that you will not shun them because Jesus Christ did not shun people. The greatist danger for the WTBTS is for JWs to critically think for themselves.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i'm visiting my brother and his family in virginia for thanksgiving.
as i was looking out the kitchen window today, saturday, waiting for my sister-in-law to finish talking with my niece on the phone, i noticed an older couple in thick coats going to different houses in the cul-de-sac.
as i was watching the older couple and thinking about what i would do if they rang the door where i was and if they were jws, the door rang.. at the door were two older african-american women.
Hi Quarterback, Thanks for asking. Northern Virginia is pretty and so is D.C. I'm still in Virginia watching my nephew while my brother and his wife go to Hawaii on a business trip - lucky parents. I'm planning on going to a museum in D.C. today wiyh my nephew. I just have to keep prodding my nephew to go in the right direction. He can be a little passive aggressive.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
