Posts by Heaven

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Direction the elders rarely follow.

by notoneoftheboys in

here is a quote from a w/t article a few years ago.

in all the 8 kh i attended [work locations changed] not one body of elders followed this direction, so if they are not minding the sheep who is?

it galls me that they will quickly act if you grow a beard, or voice an opinion, or ask a question, but when your family fall foul of abuse where are the elders then?.

Heaven

First of all, you have to look at what education and training the elders receive regarding the responsibilities of looking after 'their flock'. From what I can tell, it's bupkiss. I certainly don't consider the Bible a legitimate or valid source. I don't this the Royal Commission does either.

smiddy said: Those elders were absolutely pathetic , they went overboard about how they felt for the poor girl ,sickened ,disgusted by what she went through , yet they never did anything on a positive note to help her.

smiddy, is bang on. This speaks volumes about the Borg. Words are hollow, useless, vacuous, meaningless unless actual actions occur to back up them up.

During my marriage, I asked my husband (now my ex) the following question:

"How are your actions and behaviours supportive of our marriage?" When he snarked back "Well they're not!" I knew my marriage was over.

So ask youself the following question: "How are the actions and behaviours of the elders supportive of the congregation?"

What is the word for when you say one thing and do another? Oh yeah, liar.

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"You Became So Beloved to Us"

by wifibandit in

pixel and wifibandit present, in its original form, gmb_e.mp4 "you became so beloved to us".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odfdkl8lwpk.

Heaven

Another propaganda video attempting to sell the CO job. I'd be insulted if I was compared to the apostle Paul. That guy had serious issues.

And so much for the uber secret video. Very fine job Pixel and Wifibandit.

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The 1006 list is on the Royal Commission Website!!!!

by Petraglyph in

it seems they do have a database!

!you can view it here on the royal commission website:.

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

Heaven

The perps are predominently male.

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Huge list of victims

by umbertoecho in

https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

i pressed all the wrong buttons.

here it is, posted about an hour ago..

Heaven

And they wonder why 'the young ones are leaving in droves'.

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Re: “Became So Beloved” Video

by pixel in

amid all the talking about the rc, the wt is releasing a new video:.

to all bodies of elders.

re: became so beloved video and event media document type.

Heaven

I so love it when you guys take the Borg's super secret uber crap and make it all public-like. Gives me goosebumps.

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Why I have renounced Atheism and become a believer again

by cantleave in

i have always said that if a god showed itself i would follow the evidence and renounce my atheism.

i have now seen enough to start believing again, i am so happy, i feel a inner contentment, when he connected with me i really knew it was him.

if you are not a believer you will not understand this, but trust me, look at the evidence, open your heart to him, let him in and your life will change for the better.

Heaven

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Could this be the future for the Watchtower?

by C0ntr013r in

been researching the mormons a little since they are quite similar to the jws.

they have a similar webpage and many videos to "help" the mormons in their faith.

i found this video done by abc4 news:.

Heaven

You're right on there steve2... < insert cult name here >. It applies to any religion. I think the internet is allowing damning information to reach a far wider audience.

Religions had better innovate or die. People are drawn to a group because they are looking for something magical or special. Those born in really didn't make a choice. Either way, when things don't jive, people leave.

I am not sure about the Mormons, but I assume there are abuses going on within that group as well.

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Re: “Became So Beloved” Video

by pixel in

amid all the talking about the rc, the wt is releasing a new video:.

to all bodies of elders.

re: became so beloved video and event media document type.

Heaven

Is there a recent issue with CO's leaving or stepping down? Are they trying to get JWs to want to be CO's?

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Royal Commission and blood transfusion refusal for children?

by Marvin Shilmer in

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i wonder if the royal commission has examined the practice of jws being led to refuse blood transfusion for children when medically necessary to save life or preserve health in relation to the question of child abuse.

i've not heard anything about this brought up.

is the rc concerned solely with life altering abuse only in the form of sexual molestation, or is it looking at how the organization deals with all life altering forms of abuse jw children are exposed to the result of watchtower teaching and society?

Heaven

In my email to Stewart I mentioned there are many other abuses going on within this religion. I did not extrapolate other than to hint at victims being held to at least some if not all responsibility in an abuse situation, particularly if the victim is a female.

In the hearings they did discuss the dangerous nature of having a child, particularly a female child, being forced to relate intimate details of molestation to a panel of men. They also touched on women not being allowed to hold leadership positions. The WT lawyer explained that they would not make changes if it was against the Bible. I think this ticked off, at least, McClellan.

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My book......

by punkofnice in

...is now on kindle with the paperback to follow soon.. thanks to you all for your contributions.

any questions, please pm me.. .

Heaven

punky said: Today, I have released it to go onto Amazon...will probably be available by the weekend.

Excellent. Will check it out on Amazon. I love Amazon... free shipping - yeah! I have a few things to order so will add your book to my cart. Can't wait!