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My parents weren't 'dedicated' when I was a child so we didn't have the full brunt of what it must have been like for many who were. My Mom smoked and used that as an excuse not to get baptized or go out in Field Serve-Us. Back then Bible Studies were conducted in our home. We did not go to the Hall except on Memorial night and I only remember going once or twice.

I was raised on the doctrines and life was a struggle, due to my logical, reasoning, intellectually honest mind. I remember being told that the end was so close I wouldn't grow old in this system of things, that I wouldn't even graduate high school, and I would definitely not need a job/career. I had a hard time swallowing this story as I got older. Here I am, almost 52 years old, and am now closer to the end of my career than the beginning of it. And yes, I have grown older.

I remember having to justify to my parents every time I wanted to do something.

The mantra from my Mom was: "What do you want to do that for?"

I couldn't wait to graduate high school and move away to go to college. I had to get out of the house and away from the JW toxic mind-set.

Despite my Mom's feeble attempts to dissuade us, my younger bro and I did go to 'higher learning'.

None of us children are JWs nor are any of my parent's grand children. So much for the JW legacy in my immediate family.

Other members of my family (on my Mom's side) are not so lucky.

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Why do I suddenly want to start reading JW literature and going to Kingdom Halls?

by yogosans14 in

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is good calling me back or am i just letting my emotions get the best of me?also i really want to be closer to my jw family.

btw i was never baptized and i consider myself a born again christian i go to a baptist church and wath televangelist and i have expirenced gods presence like never before but sometimes i get fearful and think "what if jws are right and i'm wrong" than i'm screwed!but if there wrong and i'm right it doesn't look to good for them.. i would prefer if nobody posted "god isn't real" type comments.

i truly believe he is real but i respect why some are atheists..

Heaven

I truly believe he is real but I respect why some are atheists.

Yes, well, I think I see your problem then.

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why report more partakers?

by rebel8 in

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of all the threads here about the number of partakers increasing, i don't recall theories as to why they report this.

they could stop reporting numbers altogether or lie.

instead they say, in essence, "our teachings about end times and heavenly hope are still wrong"..

Heaven

It may now have become a control and/or persecution tactic.

Now that the # of partakers are actually increasing anyone who questions this is either a 'weak Witness' who needs shepherding or an apostate and is persecuting them.

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Those darned apostates

by berrygerry in

july 15, 1992 wt.

"apostates capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by brothers who take the lead.

our safety lies in avoiding apostate propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is.".

Heaven

"They doth protest too much methinks."

When claims made cannot hold up to scrutiny, when one tries, at every attempt, to quash inquiry, then there is something problematic with what is being presented.

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Religion is a snare and a racket? Who knew?

by Slave4_38y in

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Heaven

gone for good said: a day ago
Heaven -
so your Mom was ok with their deliberate move from just being ''imitating wannabees'' to a flully formed, legally recognised ''snare and racket'' of their own manufacture?

Hey gone, I am not sure my Mom was ok with them declaring themselves as a religion due to their previous assertions that they were NOT a religion and therefore no part of 'Christendom'.

My Mom was very clear that JWs were a sect and NOT a religion. This was pre-1973 (before I was 10 years old). I believe I was questioning the JW stance that they weren't a religion. It looked and sounded like one to me.

Once Watchtower declared themselves a religion, my Mom said nothing. Neither did I as I was not one to introduce JWs and their crap as subject matter for discussion very often. I honestly think that my parents had their doubts but clung to the hope that their doubts were unfounded as many older JWs do.

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Wife fully awake.

by cappytan in

i learned this past week that my wife is now awake.

i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".

she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.

Heaven

Yay! I, too, was wondering when she would join us here.

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[REPOST] Memorial Non-Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT Witness to Family and Friends

by AMNESIANO in

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(originally posted march, 2014)anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious believer from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.

by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".

nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings," "inactive," or "spiritually-weak," but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you once believed to be jehovah's must-attend, one-and-only, holy/sacred event of the year for his people, the lord's evening meal.. you hand them the very justification they so relish to self-righteously label you as a "submarine witness" deserving of jehovah's, and more importantly, their judgement.

Heaven

stanlivedeath said: why the use of the word "memorial" isnt this just watchtowerese ?

It's the JW word for 'funeral'. They 'flock' (ahem) annually to Jesus' funeral.

They gather on the wrong day to NOT do what Jesus supposedly instructed all Christians to do.

Hence, the moniker this event has been given it by the ex-JW community:

The Reject/Ignore Jesus Party.

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Why does the Almighty need a mediator?

by economy in

god is alike to all of his children, hence cannot elevate one child above all others just because one was brought into existence before others.

(ezekiel 18:4) someone has to be first-born which does not give him any superiority over others!

interestingly, jesus simply dismissed the whole idea of one being placed over the others as pagan.

Heaven

I am so done with Patriarchal belief systems. We no longer live in the Bronze or Iron Ages.