Posts by wozza

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From enemies to friends: Did it really happen?

by StephaneLaliberte in

yesterday, they showed the story “from enemies to friends” at the kingdom hall.

my mother in law told me about it as she was touched by the story.

so then, later in the evening, i searched for the video and found it in the january 1st 2017 broadcast.

wozza

I'm sure they distort ,misrepresent etc their stories as I experienced it a few times here in Australia at assemblies.

Many times I saw people give experiences ,and having pioneered with some of the people who gave them, I knew the particular stories they told were either crap or hugely embellished because I was there with them !

Sadly I succumbed to this way of encouraging the "brothers" once when asked to feature myself and my family . I was approached by a congregation elder firstly ,then passed on to the circuit overseer for a briefing and outline. We were happy to bend a little of the story at first to please the CO who requested this ,thinking it would increase the drama for the audience (though we felt uncomfortable.)

The assembly day came around at the Ridgehaven assembly hall in Adelaide South Australia ,and during the morning we were requested by the district overseer ,Franz Hoobler , to meet him quickly to discuss our "experience" . Well he proceeded to go over the original outline and change it slightly, but then he asked how we were going to express ourselves on certain points .Then from him came the way it was really going to be related . My wife and children looked to me with confused faces as to what is this all about ,I'll never forget that . And because of the short time we had now to "re-learn " the story I relented ,felt bad about this as if I'd cheated my children of my honesty to meet the needs of Hoobler.

So yes it goes on and I hope he is pushing up daisies now for that would be the best honest thing he could ever do.

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Funniest or strangest thing to happen to you when knocking on a door

by usualusername1 in

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friends

what is the funniest or strangest thing to happen to you or your partner when knocking on doors?.

mine was seeing a greenhouse with mannequins inside.

scary...paul.

wozza

Oh just one more can't help myself

Working with a young sister knocked on a door and a man dressed in overalls and a huge wood and brass cross proceeds to run from next door ,pulls out the big cross and shakes it at us screaming to get of his nieghbours property ,they don't want to hear the words of demons apparently...............still cracks me up that one.

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Funniest or strangest thing to happen to you when knocking on a door

by usualusername1 in

jw
friends

what is the funniest or strangest thing to happen to you or your partner when knocking on doors?.

mine was seeing a greenhouse with mannequins inside.

scary...paul.

wozza

Oh I love this topic ,I can't just pick one as I have a few that I can't choose the best

Working alone in semi rural coastal area I knocked on the door of an old run down house and an old man opened the door and said "My wife just died then" -stuck for words .

First door I ever did with my study conductor - man opens door and we begin our introduction as I tremble ,next minute his wife/girlfriend comes down the passage angrily pushes him out of the way and tells us to get lost ,swings around and we got a full view of everything under her sheer nightee. freaked me out.

Opened a gate and a bull terrier siezed my hand and would'nt let go till the owner called it off.

Again working alone in rurals walked up a long private road to a house and was stalked by a German Shepherd dog which bit me repeatedly and the owners did nothing as it bit me out of the gate.

Working with the ex wife again walking up a long drive in the rurals a woman set her two Dobermans on us and we had to run 200 metres to the street.

Knocked on a door the other brothers didn't want to do - a bleeding chicken leg nailed to the front door and the householder was home ,fun witch.

oh ok I'll stop

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Chapter 26 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

by new boy in

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we wanted sex too.

so why did he get married?

so they punishment you for leaving bethel and getting married?

wozza

Thanks NEW BOY for these stories ,when I was first preached to in the early seventies there was the stories of NY Bethel told to me of some peaceful relaxed place with people in charge of our eternal welfare . At the time there was their voices telling me this stuff and then there was my internal voice saying this can't really be ,wish I'd listened to my voice of skeptisism.

Over the years as I moved up the ranks I saw a lot of stuff that did'nt fit the original idealistic picture that had been painted for me by people who had never been to NY bethel or even the Australian one. In time I started to see the pettiness ,the egos , the dishonesty and how HUMAN it all was .

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Today's Text - Justifying The Increase Of Annointed Ones!

by Divergent in

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thursday, august 31. jehovah knows those who belong to him.—2 tim.

2:19.. in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christ’s death.

that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.

wozza

If the number of annointed is not so important to the Society ........

WHY DO THEY ,AND HAVE FOR A LONG TIME , COUNTED UP EVERY YEAR THE NUMBER AND GIVE THE NUMBER IN THE YEAR BOOK ?

It was always given as an indicator of how close the end of the system was ,now it seems it is an indicator of how many deluded people are in their midst.

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There is no Holy Spirit.

by hoser in

there is no holy spirit.

i lead a double life.

i post on apostate web sites, swear like a sailor, covertly subvert the watchtower religion and do many other things i'd rather not mention.

wozza

I agree with OUTLAW there is a holy spirit ,I drank a bottle of Smirnoff years ago and it went into me , did'nt like what it saw and I barfed it back out again!

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Gog of Magog - Watchtower says it has two identities

by Listener in

the searcher started a topic addressing the gt, a comment from sparrowdown asked an interesting question -.

"...the political powers of satan's world will form a coalition..."that's the statement that interests me.

what are they alluding to?.

wozza

Thanks but the first Gog is "of" Magog as if to say Gog comes from Magog

The second Gog is "and" Magog as if to say these are two identities and does'nt say where they are from

So maybe the fools on the Geriatric Body are personifying the place Magog now like they say Wisdom is personified ,so desperate to invent a new group to back up their bullshit.

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Gog of Magog - Watchtower says it has two identities

by Listener in

the searcher started a topic addressing the gt, a comment from sparrowdown asked an interesting question -.

"...the political powers of satan's world will form a coalition..."that's the statement that interests me.

what are they alluding to?.

wozza

In reference to those two charts displayed.........

I don't see two Gog of Magogs but ........I do see one Gog of Magog and one Gog and Magog

Do you see the difference?

this is a bit alarming

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What is the biggest sexual scandal to hit the top of JW tree ?

by Chook in

elders ,co ,do ,branch overseers ,gb ,missionaries has "sinful" lust got the better of them..

wozza

Her's a couple of my experiences from years ago in Adelaide South Australia :

The Fulham Gardens congo which had alot of Italian families was closed completely after many decades as there was 40 years of sexual impropriety amongst the leaders - so much for holy spirit appointing the elders . I don't know though what the "official " reason for the closing was.

A book study conductor elder of the group I was in had to confess to having sex with the best friend of his wife after several years when the friend confessed years later ,he was appointed after he had sex with her - again the holy spirit is'nt to fussy.

Oh ok another......early one morning while working on a building site in the city of Adelaide I saw the city overseer leaving a building which was known as a brothel - did I tell the brothers ? hell no he was also a lawyer and the JW scales were falling off a little bit at a time.

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Former CO Willis Bentley

by Rejected in

is he on this board?

does anyone know the reason he left?

what denomination is his church?.

wozza

Wrong so wrong try again .........................https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289012/does-anyone-remember-district-overseer-joe-slaiman

success I think