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  Tuesday, September 11, 2001 - The Day My JW Faith Began to Die (finally)

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  it was late june of 2001 that i was appointed as an elder at the amazingly seasoned age of 26. a true lifelong goal had been achieved.

  i had to be appointed an elder before 30. already, peers were starting to be appointed.

  i had to make it.

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  trebor

  Jeff,

  Thank you for sharing that. It is appreciated.
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  Zombie computer games

  by watersprout in

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  so carrot has borrowed some games for his wii from a bloke at work, and one of the games is called ''dead rising''.

  from what i can see you have to kill all the zombies in a shopping centre.... well carrot has got hold of a chainsaw and is slaughtering all the zombies... he is laughing uncontrollably and keeps saying that it's the best game ever!.

  is it me or is this something men should have grown out of when they left puberty??.

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  Did someone suggest age limits and gender when it comes to video games?

  http://www.funspotnh.com/pc-dorisselfarticle.htm

  http://topworldnewss.blogspot.com/2011/08/oldest-video-game-player.html

  Personally, I've been playing video games for over 30 years and have no intension to ever stop doing so.

  I believe the mainstream concept of video games being for only "kids" or "boys", died out around, during, or shortly thereafter computers were only for "geeks".
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  Update: I got the shun at my dad's funeral- the best outcome really!!

  by Coffee House Girl in

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  hello all jwn .

  so glad to have that over with- it was surreal to walk in the kh after two years...it is just a building to me now (not "jehovah's house").

  i must say that now i'm on the outside...what a boring sad building- the people were not joyful and friendly (just older and fatter than i remember)- i got the nervous stares and shaky "hi" when i looked at all of them and said hello.. my mom was sitting all by herself in the front row of the hall...i went and sat by her side.

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  Coffee House Girl,

  My sincere condolences regarding the loss of your father; may you find peace and tranquility.
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  “God’s organization” on “Satan’s organization”

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  gods organization on satans organization .

  today i uploaded a new article to my blog comparing watchtowers complaint of christendom against its own actions against the benchmark of disfellowshipping for criticizing religious teaching.

  its telling!

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  The viewpoint and hypocrisy has not changed. Not just 50 years, but 70 years later with gems such as:

  The July 2009 Awake! magazine on page 29:

  "No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his belief and his family."

  What needs to be added to the above statement is "unless you are or were one of Jehovah's Witnesses"..lol.

  Stating you cannot compare something the Watchtower stated from 1930 to more modern times is a similar notion that the Watchtower can bash other religions (I.E. Catholics) for things that were done or stated hundreds of years ago; but things their organization did was just 'old light' or 'God's direction at that time' for them.
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  WT books thrown into the dumpster...

  by NVR2L8 in

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  for the last few weeks i have been pretty busy as we were moving to a new house.

  my wife did most of the packing but when it came to the move, i realized that there are things we own that we had forgotten about because we haven't used them for years!

  on top of the list was old wt publications that no longer contain the "truth" and publications available on the wt cd.

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  trebor

  What a waste of perfectly good dumpster space
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  Jesus is NOT the Mediator for the Great Crowd?

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  so according to the watchtower, jesus is not the mediator for the great crowd.

  evidently jesus is only mediator for the anointed.

  this means that about 99.9% of jehovahs witnesses cant say that jesus is their mediator.

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  trebor

  The same point was brought up in a more relatively recent publication...

  Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" on page 10, paragraph 16:
  “Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.”
  
  That is again, despite this:

  1 Timothy 2: 5, 6:
  “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all”
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  Was there a clique in your congregation?

  by Chemical Emotions in

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  there is in mine.

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  trebor

  There is nothing special or different with Jehovah's Witnesses than any other place where a group of people meet regularly and consistently. Personalities will click or clash, and certain people and lifestyles (I.E. wealth or/and looks) will just gravitate towards one another.

  The noteworthy thing in connection with Jehovah's Witnesses is how there's this facade of love from many; which is not demonstrated regularly to all members; only towards those in their so called-clique or 'circle of friends'.

  Even then, the whole thing is by far and large conditional. They are some of the most circumstantial and conditional friendships you will ever encounter, for the most part. Further, it is all hinging upon obedience to the direction of a few men in Brooklyn and their publication.
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  Anyone know when the 2011 conventions begin?

  by average joe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am curious to know what books, teaching, new light etc the watchtower is going to come out with this year..

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  Always have to love the good ol' interpretation of the statue in Daniel by the Watchtower Society. I especially love the leaving out of the Mongol Empire. Existing during the 13th and 14th century, it was the largest contiguous empire in the history of the world.

  In connection with that, we have the Black Death/Plague. It killed off anywhere between 30-60% of Europe's population.

  Between the Mongol Empire and what many will call the worst times of human history, the Watchtiwer needs to try hardder with its 'persuasion'. Imagine in the the country you live in today...1 out of every 3 or even 2 out of every 3 people die in your neighborhood/land, surely it would be "the end" at hand, right? It didn't happen during the 1300's.

  The Watchtower really needs to learn how to work the Mongol Empire in and I would love to see an explantion how 1914 onward has been worse than the 13th/14th centuries for the human race.

  So they're increasing the 'shows'...Instead of just one, they're up to three dramas...NICE. Maybe they also need to start a JW Music genre and sell to the masses to draw the people in. The Governing Body "unplugged" is sure to draw attention.
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  Exactly how many different views of Jesus are there on the Board and doesn't that kind of tell Believers the obvious problem...

  by designs in

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  We know that God exists, that He is uncreated, eternal spirit, triune, holy, just, loving, merciful, faithful, revealed in Christ, the God-Man, sovereign, omnipotent, omniscient (must be defined correctly), omnipresent, etc. etc. We know He is not Allah, a stone idol, a Buddha statue, Mormon finite, evolving men-gods, etc.

  "We know" should be presented as "I believe". You have a faith, not for certain and proven facts. Intellectual honesty would assist in adding credence to your 'points'.

  Passing belief as undeniable fact is something I hope most leave behind with the Watchtower Society.
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  Pakistani christian woman sentenced to death

  by jean-luc picard in

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  there was a report on the tv last night about a pakistani christian woman sentenced to death.

  for blaspheming the prophet ( mohamed i suppose).. she was working in the fields with two muslims.

  it was hot and she had a drink of water.. she offered some to the two muslims but they would not drink from the same cup as a christian.

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  After all they think Witnesses who disobey them should be put out and are worthy of death not to mention the rest of the non-jw world they are just itching for God to destroy.

  Absolutely...That has been in place and implanted into members minds for years.

  The Watchtower, November 15, 1952, page 703, Questions from Readers:
  
  "In the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped [disassociated], how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?
  
  We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. . . Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God’s law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshipped from his congregation."
  
  The message to Jehovah's Witnesses above is a family member should be killed as they were exterminated (Stoned to death) for apostasy among "theocratic nations". The only things stopping them are the law of the land and God's law through Christ. Basically, too bad such laws are in place or else we would stone our apostate fleshly family members to death!