Posts by truthlover

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Recorded Judicial Meeting by 19 year old

by BlindersOff1 in

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he runs circles around the dogmatic elders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lko0vmqfyau.

truthlover

He did handle the elders really well but when I saw him puffing on the cigar, like a little kid who had won an argument with mommy, kinda took away his professionalism in dealing with the situation.

but now I guess, he can do what he wants.

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Elders- Have any of You faded Because of participating in a JC where the Arguments from the accused made sense to you?

by truthlover in

i know the question is long, but it has occured to me that there are a lot of newbies here but before that, many ex elders, some co and do's that are no longer jw's.... did the publishers comments at a jc about the misconceptions,dates, and lack of holy spirit, etc.

make sense to you and did you start thinking about the failed prophecies, fudging the "new light" etc.

which caused you to slowly fade away.. .

truthlover

I know the question is long, but it has occured to me that there are a lot of newbies here but before that, many ex elders, some co and do's that are no longer JW's.... did the publishers comments at a JC about the misconceptions,dates, and lack of holy spirit, etc. make sense to you and did you start thinking about the failed prophecies, fudging the "new light" etc. which caused you to slowly fade away.

Were you ashamed you participated in the JC's after that?

Thanks

TL

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Oct. 22nd Zone Meeting: Here's some facts and figures presented to ticketed-only audiences

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

if we weren't invited, this is the "bragging" information we missed last saturday, oct. 22, 2011, at the zone meeting with tie-in from patterson, ny .

59 locations tied-in plus spanish.

anticipating 258,000 attendance from tickets given out.

truthlover

Some info on the society- but no mention of the 60,000 sq ft gym for all sports??? I believe its at Walkill

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$10 M NEW Assembly Hall in South Carolina

by truthlover in

jw
friends

does anyone know if regular kh were sold with monies sent to the society in the area as well as in other close states?.

did the elders ask for pubs to donate towards the building of this new assembly hall and is it to be used for weekly meetings?

i note it is to be used for 40 2- day assemblies per year but throughout the week would it stand vacant or be used by congregation meetings?.

truthlover

Does anyone know if regular KH were sold with monies sent to the society in the area as well as in other close states?

Did the elders ask for pubs to donate towards the building of this new assembly hall and is it to be used for weekly meetings? I note it is to be used for 40 2- day assemblies per year but throughout the week would it stand vacant or be used by congregation meetings?

I would assume also that there will be a donation arrangement made by way of the quick cash banking machines directly in the front entrance???

If the regular KH were sold off, that would demand the publishers would have to start driving longer distances to get to a meeting...and this with the price of gas going through the roof, which is why they stopped the home bible studies, eh!

They are saying it would bring in revenues of 264 million in 5 years with average of the 160,000 visitors per year each spending $66.00 per day?? Where will they eat if a two day - they would be bringing their own food and drink mostly, may go out for one meal, so no taxes appreciating from that source... says they will will bring in new const jobs and long term sustainable jobs prior to being built... Well, who built it -- volunteers from the org! so no real worldly contractor had a chance to make any money, other than lumber and some materials.

I could go on but I was really interested in knowing if there was a massive sell off of KH in SC, NC, etc?

Thanks

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We are in for a blizzard!

by coffee_black in

jw
friends

the winter storm watch has just been upgraded to a blizzard watch.

from where i sit, just outside of boston, it looks like up to 2 feet of snow from friday to saturday with high winds that will make travel very difficult if not impossible.. .

coffee .

truthlover

Heading up to the Atlantic Provinces of Canada.. fill up those bath tubs with water and get out the candles and propane everyone!! Get ready for BBQ's in the snow

Anyone got the old time perk coffee makers that you can use on the propane BBQ's or stoves?? --

TL

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The Borg "our mother"? Good Grief!

by Roberta804 in

i have heard it all now, or at least up to now, the borg never ceases to surprise me.

so when jesus was talking to his deciple from the cross (opps stake), "this is your mother" or something like that, was he talking about the borg?

lol.

truthlover

Inference was made at the DC this summer -- I never really got the answer to the question, but there is a search you can do on this board - type in Who is the mother? and Blondie has laid out some of the quotes used by the WTBTS before - goes back to Fred Franz time then seemed to disappear, now it is re-appearing and still does not make sense to me - Jesus has his wife of 144,000 but this "mother" is spoken of as Jehovahs.... so there has to be a difference although the society is making the mother the 144,000 and we are to be loyal to "her"...

TL

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How Can I Kindly Kick Weak And Unproductive Publishers Out Of My Kingdom Hall?

by AuntConnie in

unproductive kingdom proclaimers won't leave my kingdom hall, how do i rid our hall of these vultures or turkeys?.

"you can't fly like the eagles if you hang out with turkeys".

after visiting your site, i decided to allow one of the spiritual weak individuals into my car group, it was not easy but you have made valid points i find very self condemning.

truthlover

Why did you listen to people here? That must be a joke... you came on the board, you don't have to do anything but each word you write gives us more information that indicates you must be on Prozac.... so her daughter is dressing down and has a Iphone, what has that to do with you? Your responsibility is to be nice! Three richest ladies... what a smug, self opinionated person you are, and if true, very materialistic..and to call her daughter a slut?? Hummmm -

Just shut up and drive! Say, nice to work with you and go home and make supper for your mate!

I can just see you standing before "the throne" and giving excuses for your actions. People in the "world" are not as ignorant as you are in the "truth".

--"" us apostates"", well you are here, you apostate and still going out in service?

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I'm so offended by what happened today at the KIngdom Hall!!

by Vienna Angelika in

so today we were late for the meeting as usual.

this is because i take a really bad medication where i literally cannot function in the first part of the day but without it i am even worse.

we got there near the end of the talk and it was in my opinion very anoying.

truthlover

VA:

If you want to go to the meetings, do so and don't leave if you are tired. There are many brothers and some sisters who do go to sleep and no-one really cares. You should go to an elder your trust and inform him of your health, and although you probably won't get anywhere, at least, the word is out that you are not well and need the rest. I too, have felt sleepy due to my health and nodded off, it's good you are making the effort to just be there, let alone be scrutinized for it!

As far as the mother of your friend, she is one of those righteous ones and can't see anything unless its pointing fingers at people who dont live up to her standards.. don't sweat this stuff, they are always there, YOU do what is best for YOUR health, remember Jesus was tired too, its just a human condition....

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses a hierarchical religion? And does it matter?

by cedars in

this is the title of my latest article, which is available on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-hierarchical-religion-and-does-it-matter.

inspired by the illustration in the april 15th watchtower (above), i thought it would be worthwhile to further explore this facet of the society for two reasons.... because the society has spent decades criticizing the catholic church for being hierarchical, andbecause the society has recently become more open about its hierarchical nature than ever before.below is a diagram i have prepared which shows the organizational similarities that watch tower society now shares with the catholic church.... .

until recently, the governing body could place the "faithful slave" above it at the top of the pyramid, but as of october 5th this fuzzy doctrine was scrapped - thus removing the final distinguishing factor between the governing body and popedom.. as always, i would be interested in your thoughts.... .

truthlover

yes, most definitely - and their legal eagle in the Candace Conti case said so!!

Also, in the August 15, 2012 WT on page 31 there is a background picture of the pyramidology chart -- seems like they are slowly instilling the pict in your mind... then the "explanation" will come

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Pedos - Hardwired?

by Satanus in

from the various readings about the subject, it occured to me that pedophilia could very well be hardwired, as are homosexuality and heterosexuality.

that's not to say that it can be legitimized, like the other 2 sexualities.

it does mean though, that a different approach needs to be taken as soon as pedo proclivity shows itself.

truthlover

In our area, a pervert/pedophile was released, he took residence across the street from elementary school, the police told the school principal but nothing was told to the parents and right now, there is hell to pay and a lot of questions being asked

Why aren't these guys wearing GPS systems, even if they have done their time? If they refuse to be re habilitated, are chronic offenders and the inmates have not been able to "sway" the offender, they should be tracked forever - but then it all costs money, doesn't it? Excuses, excuses - there are some big islands off the coast, why not quarantine them to there and they can molest each other and leave kids alone - only have a boat deliver food/goods every two weeks, just a dream!

They cannot be "fixed" their brain is wired and NEVER should they be a part of general population again.