A beautifullly expressed profile of this person and possibly any witness when they are "witnessing." With a grasp of the situation such as you have, you may well be effective regardless of her reason for calling on you.
DNCall
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My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...
by Faithful Witness inshe has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.
i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.
this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.
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Anyone going to the memorial this year?
by Pyramid God ini was invited by my parents, and even though i have nothing but contempt for this religion, things have been good in our relationship so i was considering going just to appease them.
anyone else?.
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DNCall
No. However, we will be partaking of bread and wine. Well, not unleavened bread but very fine, freshly baked bread at our favorite Italian restaurant in town where we will be dining with some close ex-JW friends. The leavened bread symbolizes our fallen condition as ex-JWs. The wine symbolizes our desire to have a nice, relaxing evening. At least we won't be down at the Kingdom Hall denying the body and blood of the Son of God!
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Anyone know where to get support?
by Nosferatu ini blew up and dumped my girlfriend on monday over a silly little thing.
it's been happening in pretty much every relationship i get involved in.
it never happened before my marriage.. during my marriage, i was alone almost all the time.
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DNCall
I would add that the best therapist may be a psychiatrist. The symptoms you describe could also be attributed to depression and you would want a therapist who can prescribe medication.
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Discussion with some elders
by GoUnion inhello everyone just wanted to relate a situation that occurred a few days ago.
so i have quit going to meetings for a few months now based on some issues i have with the explanations of current doctrines.
my wife is none too happy with this but over the last few months we have had some date nights and have tentitively agreed to disagree.
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Ray Franz said it best for me when he used the expression, "victims of victims" in describing the organization. Of course, in order for there to be a victim, there must be a perpetrator. From what I know of the organization, that perpatrator was JF Rutherford, the architect of the Witness religion. Was he evil? I believe he was. He coveted, stole and manipulated. His ego, ambition and vengeful nature knew no bounds. Even his close associates in leadership were victims of his. On this foundation was constructed the unhealthy tradition that claims victims to this day.
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Not All Anointed Ones Alive Today Are Part Of 'This generation'
by OwnAccord inwhere do they come up with this stuff?.
this is a topic on 'the other site'.
i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.
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When you start with the premise that the Governing Body is God's channel, everything else (including "The Truth") must conform to the current teachings, policies and direction of the Governing Body. It doesn't have to be logical, reasonable, humane, or loving.
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Discussion with some elders
by GoUnion inhello everyone just wanted to relate a situation that occurred a few days ago.
so i have quit going to meetings for a few months now based on some issues i have with the explanations of current doctrines.
my wife is none too happy with this but over the last few months we have had some date nights and have tentitively agreed to disagree.
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DNCall
Welcome to the board.
It sounds like the elders you spoke with were more open minded than many. I also sounds like your approach is healthy with regard to your wife. I would suggest following the elders' advice (wth the exception of your wife, of course). Just be prepared that if your wife begins to wake up and the elders notice, an investigation and, likely, a judicial meeting will follow.
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Thanks WTBS for changing the Kingdom Songs, you freed me!
by StephaneLaliberte inyesterday, i saw a picture of a family signing kingdom melodies together.
it made me realize a fact that i am somewhat ashamed to admit:.
for over a decade, i have been aware of the false prophecies, the deceptive statements, the lack of scriptural support for many core practices and other issues with the witnesses.
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DNCall
Having been involved in the early stages of the new song book, I usually contribute to these threads. I don't want to repeat what I've posted elsewhere except to say that the only positive aspect I see in the new book is that it contains fewer songs.
Another thought occurs to me in connection with the OP and this goes to human nature.
We all naturally associate memories with music. The quality of the music doesn't matter so much. Each generation has "its music." And, probably since the beginning of time, the older generation has berated the music of the younger generation.
The present generation of Witnesses will be connecting their memories to the music of the new songbook and should the organization survive long enough to produce yet another new songbook, the present generation will rail against any changes contained in that new songbook.
And so it goes . . .
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Will firing the DOs be the first step to a new Watchtower?
by Juan Viejo2 inagainst my better judgement, i've decided to share the following as a response to guy pierce passing and the announcement of the elimination of district overseers later this year.. late in january (2014) i got an email from one of my contacts (a fader) who served at bethel for several years, but is no longer at wt hq.
he still has a lot of close contacts within the service department and in other departments at patterson and knows people in all of the ny offices.
i kept this email set aside on a flash drive and haven't shared it with anyone - figuring i'd publish an article about it later this year when i had more time to do it right.
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In years gone by, the Witnesses used to pride themselves in bucking "worldly trends." It was evidence that they were relying on Jehovah, and Jehovah was blessing and protecting them. This was offered as solid proof that the Witnesses were God's only approved religion. Successfully going counter to the trends of the day, doctrinally, socially and economically, was possible prior to the digital age.
Not so any more.
Those who discern the leadership adjusting to survive in today's world, will realize that God is not blessing and protecting their organization. I think it's safe to say that the inevitable "new Watchtower" will have fewer members.
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I did it !!!!
by snare&racket in7 years ago i started on a path i had long ago given up on as impossible.
i met with my elders and told them i could not justify carrying on as a jw.
i went and got my high school qualifications and my higher education diploma (a levels with distinction) in just 12 months.
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Bravo, for pursuing such a noble profession. May you help more that you can count and may your rewards be many!
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I'm not trying to brag, but being an EXJW is awesome!!! Status Update-
by Coffee House Girl inhello jwn!
i don't get to check in here or comment as often as i would like because i have been working so hard at school...but i just have to share my news in hopes that newbees can see that taking the leap to enroll in higher education is worth it-.
i am graduating this spring with a bachelor degree in art history, minor anthropology...many people (including nonjw's have given me flack for choosing a "dead end" career path) but since leaving the watchtower organization's group-think mentality and "leaning on my own understanding" instead... i decided to say fuck everyone else's opinion...i am going to pursue my passion to work in a museum as a curator or archivist-.
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DNCall
Great news. Best of success!