Posts by flipper

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Help Please - Finding It Hard Adjusting To The Real World

by pale.emperor in

im asking for you guys help in a phase im going through right now.

im sure it’ll pass but id appreciate your advice..

born in, my family consists of mum, dad, two brothers and two sisters.

flipper

PALE EMPEROR - I totally get and understand what you're going through. I too was a "born-in " JW from birth and didn't exit until age 44 about 13 years ago in 2003. You and me and others here were raised and indoctrinated to feel unnecessary GUILT and FEAR in our views towards EVERYTHING that's not WT or JW approved. WT Society worked hard to rip our self esteem from us as humans through the use of these GUILT and FEAR tactics - so it takes effort on our part to reestablish our personal self esteem. Which helps us proceed in a positive way in most things in real life needed to lead a normal, sane life. So what you are feeling is normal for someone coming out of a strong, controlling mind control cult - yet it takes work and effort on your part, my part, and re-educating ourselves after leaving the Witnesses in order to understand HOW the WT Society controlled us and to learn HOW to break free and start a new, happy life for ourselves. In time experience helps, but we have to re-educate our brain neurotransmitters with different information in order to get rid of the harmful WT indoctrination and way of thinking.

At 31 years of age you still have lots of time to get that medical degree you wanted and lots of time to pursue hobbies and interests you have as an authentic Non-JW human. I highly recommend reading Steve Hassan's 3 books on mind control and how it affected us in order to understand how to move on from it : his website is www.freedomofmind.com.

There is no reason to berate yourself, put yourself down anymore , or to think that your life is over. In actuality and truth - your life has just begun my friend. I mean, I'm almost 57 years old and hadn't picked up or played a guitar- ever until 5 years ago at age 52 . Now I've written almost 60 songs and am pursuing making music like I always wanted to in my teen years as a JW - but wasn't allowed the time to do so. You now HAVE the rest of your life to pursue any dreams you desire in a positive way if you wish ! I know it's cliché - but today IS the first day of the rest of your life my friend. Think about it - seriously- don't put limits on yourself- embrace the positive changes in your life and eliminate the negative influences ! WE are here for you as a support and friendship too- take care, best of luck to you ! Peace out, mr. Flipper

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My Guitar, My Friend

by Tallon in

one of my interests is music and i play an acoustic guitar.. i wrote a poem about my guitar and thought i'd share it with you.

my poem doesn't match up to some of compound complex's work however, i'd really appreciate any feedback you can give.. my guitar my friend.

reaching for my old companion.

flipper

TALLON- Nice poem about your guitar. Very nice. My main guitar is a Yamaha steel string from the early 1970's. Has a sweet sound to it. Music is a healer and in writing songs I've also discovered much healing as well within myself. There's nothing like just picking and strumming and experimenting around with different chords until you find a cool combination of chords that brings that healing sound. It's like when it hits you know !

Like having an " aha " moment ! Coolest feeling ever. Keep on playing everybody ! Enjoy ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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2016 RC & my family

by BeautifulMind in

jw
friends

i hope you are all well.

i haven't posted in a little while.

i've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org.

flipper

BEAUTIFUL MIND- You really handled that well, very well indeed. Good job. The thing that's not fair is that our JW relatives expect us to respect THEIR rights to believe as they want- but they don't respect OUR rights to believe as we want. In fact - JW's don't recognize personal boundaries at all actually - they are just drilling us with intrusive questions in order to get the " goods " on us in order to judge us according to our answers to their questions.

It will be your mother in laws loss if she shuns you guys and her own grandchildren. You did well to stand your ground to her. Now about all you can do from this point forward is try to avoid getting caught up in what I call her " bear trapper " behavior where she tries to get you to reveal too much and then she brings the ax down on your relationship by shunning you guys. Now that she knows you and your husband's position, and you've stated your views - if she talks again try to just stay on family topics and non-JW topics about health, weather, hobbies, entertainment- otherwise I think it will just increase the tension in the situation . Keep telling her that you guys love her unconditionally and that will never change. Perhaps in her own mind she'll think about that- even if due to pride she won't admit it to you out loud. Gives her something to reflect on compared to how SHE is being hard lined towards you and your husband. I wish you the best of luck. Hang in there I have JW relatives in my extended family as well- I know it's not easy dealing with them. We are here for you. take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.

by ToesUp in

very strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.

on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.

(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.

flipper

This is hilarious - and disturbing in many different ways all at the same time. I mean the problem is that the maker of this you tube is as crazy as the JW's singing ! If this guy or somebody else would just shoot a video of him talking with JW's about the WT criminal child abuse with different JW's exiting the convention WITHOUT bringing up religious differences - then perhaps it would expose WT for what it's really doing - even controlling JW's minds regarding criminal conduct. But to go into attack mode and raise a ruckus loudly just puts all the JW's in defense mode.

It was pretty weird of the JW attendants and JW men to form this long line while singing kingdom songs. Whose freaking idea was that ? Did they get a C.O. to back that up ? Or WT legal ? WTF ? You would think if the JW's were that upset about this rebel rouser - that they would call the police and get him for disturbing the peace ! Oh- That's right, I forgot- JW's don't believe in reporting things to the police or " Caesars law " - they like taking the law into their own hands- thus the singing. I.e. " child abuse non-reporting " " Gives Jehovah a bad name " . I wish there were news camera crews there to put this on local news. I swear these people are getting crazier and crazier

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Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

by OrphanCrow in

and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

flipper

Yeah, when I was a JW I was told I couldn't offer my services in business like Toes Up said to " false religion " with any repairs or whatever to their church as it would be contributing to " Babylon the Great " - yet WT leaders can O.K. selling a property for 2 million $$$$ and not see their own hypocrisy. Bunch of bastards. Do as I say - not as I do

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My Lawyers Letter To The Elders

by pale.emperor in

for those of you that asked, below is a copy of my solicitors letter to the elders in my old congregation.

he sent a similar one directly to bethel and a medical directive to my daughters gp to go on her medical records that i have already given permission for her to have a blood transfusion should she need one:.

.

flipper

Very well done Pale Emperor. Protect that daughter of yours as much as possible. She's having to attend meetings where crazy, mind controlled humans are. She's lucky to have you as a dad who is looking out for her welfare and safety. Keep up the great work

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Elders Advice Backfired And Now Im The Happiest I've Ever Been

by pale.emperor in

just wanted to update you guys of the amazing couple of weeks i've had in recovering from the cult.. i was attending the meetings still just so i could see my daughter in the kingdom hall and have her sit we me half the time.

i had no intention of ever becoming a jw again but was hoping to be re-instated and just not turn up ever again so i could at least see my family.

but then an elder said something to me that changed all that.

flipper

PALE EMPEROR- I'm really happy for you. Isn't it amazing how much stress we lose once we stop attending meetings ? I feel the same way you do- although some of my older generation JW relatives shun me- I've never been happier than I have these last 13 years. Freedom of mind and freedom of conversation is a lost art these days and a priceless possession ! Good luck to you ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Those who are covertly awake.

by Thisismein1972 in

ok, i work as a taxi driver, and have had a few witnesses in my car already.

as there is no where to run, and being in a confined space, there is no choice other than to create small talk.

after all, shunning someone who is essentially responsible for taking said witness home could lead to a rather embarrassing outcome!

flipper

THISISME 1972- Very interesting experience- thanks for sharing ! I bet there are a lot more awakened and enlightened covert JW's out there than we realize. It's just that they are SO controlled through fear and guilt by the WT organization and scared shitless about getting exposed to still in JW family- that these people would be hard to detect. Hopefully we will get more glimpses of these covert JW's as more and more negative news comes out about WT child abuse and other injustices being committed by WT leaders. Peace out, mr. Flipper

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Hello

by TheAceInhibitor in

jw
friends

i've been lurking here for a while, but i figured i should say hello and introduce myself.

i haven't been attending the meetings for a couple months now and i'm a graduate pharmacist.

i look forward to getting to know people.

flipper

Welcome to the board Ace Inhibitor ! Nice to have you here. Welcome to freedom of mind and expression . You are among friends. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Convicted Child Rapist Proselytizing. Is the Community Aware? Is the Community Safe?

by freemindfade in

wow, this is awesome.

this really shows the jw passiveness towards child sex abusers.

there needs to be more of this exposing this!.

flipper

Considering the reports about WT child abuse in England being hidden by the WT Society- this is an important you tube to bump up