Posts by OnTheWayOut

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J.W. dogma refuted by their own RNWT Bible

by The Fall Guy in

perhaps potential j.w.

recruits can use this example on their study conductors - and then witness the cognitive dissonance at first hand.. w98 2/1 p. 11 par.

13 – “when jehovah made his covenant, it was only with israel; those of the “vast mixed company,” although present, were not named as participants.”.

OnTheWayOut

I was schooled by old-time JW's. I don't even have to really fully understand your point to give a JW answer.

NO, Christendom is not just being selective with scriptures. They take them out of context and they twist them.
Watchtower enlightens us with understanding using the whole Bible. If you think a point is taken out of context or too selective, we will be glad to study with you and show you how the entire Bible is in harmony and points to God's Kingdom as the solution to man's problems.

(Hold on while I pile on.) And Christendom refuses to keep up with the chariot. Any seeming contradictions are eventually cleared up by continually examining the scriptures and praying for guidance (and reading the latest crap from WTS).

(We will show you that Watchtower somehow covers both sides of an issue over the years and refers back to whichever quote we need to prove the current understanding.)

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What really should be the role of Women in the congregations?

by Old Navy in

the presumably "biblical" practice of limiting the way women participate in congregational matters of the wtborg cult inc. (as well as certain other sects of christendom) may be a gross mis-interpretation of what paul meant.

i'm inclined to agree completely with this account of what paul really meant.. thoughts anyone?

aren't women more deserving of greater participation and respect?.

OnTheWayOut

In any religion that doesn't treat women as equals, as we have finally been enlightened about sometime in the 20th century, the only place we should find women is outside the doors on the way out.

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Your Top Ten Favourite Movies?

by LoveUniHateExams in

just thought i'd start a thread about favourite movies.

mine, in no particular order, are .... alien - a great visual film.

the chest-bursting scene is still great to watch, no matter how many times i've seen the movie.

OnTheWayOut

My answer depends on my mood. Here's a list from right now when I typed this, but it could change tomorrow:

The Matrix
It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
Unforgiven
Runaway Train
Blade Runner
The Sting
Star Wars, A New Hope
The Terminator
12 Monkeys

....and Rocky would be in most mood lists.

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My Mothers Ultimate Rejection

by What Now? in

i went into my mother's office to leave her a small note to say that we love and miss her and would love to get together.

i found this on her desk.

this is jehovah's witnesses.

OnTheWayOut

Just wanted to say I am so saddened to read this.

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Freudian slip in last Sunday's WT?

by The Fall Guy in

i had this point highlighted to me yesterday by a dyed-in-the-wool j.w.

who is beginning to see cracks in his beloved golden calf of warwick.

so encouraging to hear his disgruntlement with org-related topics.. “many in the christian congregation may not have expected their loved ones to die this side of armageddon.” (july 2017 study wt).

OnTheWayOut

I am starting to suspect that they are trying to just say what they know is on the minds of believing members.

They say the GB (or anointed or whatever) are not "inspired" and can make errors in direction.
They say how members did not expect to die "in this system."

It's a way of saying you addressed these issues when members use them to question the organization.

It sounds like a bad idea to me, but who knows?

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Free to sin but still cannot bring myself to do it

by sinboi in

have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.

now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.

something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.

OnTheWayOut

I faded and took a few baby steps. I was such a rebel to wear a red sweater instead of a suit jacket at the Kingdom Hall.

My point is that you will be able to laugh at your progress afterward.

I hope this helps- It is not immoral to attend a party, as long as you don't intend to behead anyone. I hope you start to discard the idea that you "engage in immorality" when you violate their stupid rules.

Go buy a lottery ticket or say a curse word. Donate blood. See a movie they would never approve of. Do somethings that help you see that lightning won't strike you.

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10 Graphs that show that the Watchtower is in trouble in Mexico

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

mexico is by far the country where the witnesses have had the most success in the entire world.

almost any statistic except the total amount of witnesses shows that mexico is where the witnesses have had the wildest success in the world.proportional to population, the witnesses in mexico are double, or nearly triple, what they are in the us or brazil.but there is "trouble in paradise".

if mexico falls, pretty much the whole watchtower falls.which is why it is so important to have jwfacts translated to spanish.i made an analysis and things are looking bad in mexico... if trends continue, mexico will become just like the 1st-world countries.here is the first graph:maximum publisher % increase:.

OnTheWayOut

Well, THEY STILL HAVE GROWTH IN MEXICO as long as it's above Zero %.

But the stats show that might go away. Surely, they are running out of kids willing to be baptized or forced into it.

I can imagine the retired English-only JW's are such a minority. Most probably could go to Spanish language congregations. They might even like going to Spanish if they don't speak the language, just sitting there like bumps on a log as usual, but with a language-barrier excuse.

If they close English-only, it's a money thing. The retired JW's probably give minimal amounts to keep the congregation expenses at bay, but not much toward the worldwide work.

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What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

by flipper in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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OnTheWayOut

My buddy, JRK went with me to see/hear Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience, Cheap Trick, and Foreigner in late August, then we went to another venue for Edgar Winter, Alice Cooper, and Deep Purple.

The Led Zep experience and Cheap Trick were top notch, and Foreigner was good.
Edgar Winter was top notch.
Deep Purple- the music was awesome and the vocalist was okay.
Alice Cooper is like a crazy show more about theatrics, but still fun and familiar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Z6Ar814t8

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Assembly experiences that strech the truth

by karter in

jw
friends

elder and his wife build a flash house.. they go on the stage at an assembly and give an experiences of how they sold the flash house to simplify their life so they can go pioneering.. the real story.. elder and wife can't afford the flash house and have to sell it he never goes pioneering she does until they are declared bankrupt.. why were they bankrupt?.

the money leaft over from the flash house they invested in a yet to be build apartment and the developer goes bankrupt takeing their money.. just one of many.. karter..

OnTheWayOut

NewYork44M:
Thanks for the clarification. I wonder why the C.O. is promoting fiscal irresponsibility and stupidity.
It sounds like this family has not a lick of sense related to finance. I found that most problems the r&f faced were of their own making.

I typed more and it disappeared.
Anyway, they probably cannot find actual, good, upbuilding experiences, so they had to take this one and put the "spin" on it. And, we have learned that this is very very common.

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Does anyone under the age of 25 know what KFC stands for? (What about WT or JW?)

by stuckinarut2 in

as we have seen, the society has so smoothly rolled out the rebranding of the organization in just a few short years!.

(in fact, i remember a thread post here a few years back, where it was mentioned that all halls are going to get the jw.org signs on them.

it was initially laughed off and doubted) https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/279409/jw-org-signs-put-on-all-kingdom-halls-new-directive.

OnTheWayOut

We're not talking fried chicken here. People could easily go to the internet to learn about KFC and how it started in Kentucky. But not very likely. It's just fried chicken.

But they will go to the internet and learn about jwdotorg and where it came from. They will stumble upon jwfacts or some other negative links. It's more important to them than KFC.