Hamboozled

Joined

• started 2 topics
• posted 33 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Hamboozled

• 
  15

  Trinity - HELP!!!

  by Hamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since being in the jw org for close to 35 years (from infant) and recently leaving i have been studying topics like the trinity because i was never allowed to before.

  i'm getting so many mixed reviews from the scriptures of whether the trinity is possible or impossible.

  " and john 1:18 "no one has ever seen god, but god the one and only, who is at the father's side, has made him known.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  Since being in the JW org for close to 35 years (from infant) and recently leaving I have been studying topics like the Trinity because I was never allowed to before. I'm getting so many mixed reviews from the scriptures of whether the trinity is possible or impossible. There are scriptures that back it and then do not back it and I was wondering what some of your thoughts on this topic. In support of Trinity:
  

  • John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." together with John 1:14 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." and John 1:18 "No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known."
  
  
  • John 8:23-24 : "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins."
  
  
  • John 8:58 "'I tell you the truth', Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'"
  
  
  • John 10:30 : "I and the Father are one."
  
  
  • John 10:38 : "But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."
  
  
  • Colossians 2:9 : "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form"
  
  
  • Revelation 1:17-18 : "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades."
  
  
  • John 12:41 : "Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus' glory and spoke about him." - As the context shows, this implied the Tetragrammaton in Isaiah 6:1 refers to Jesus.

  
  

  
  
  In Non Support of Trinity:
  

  
  
  John 14:28: Jesus said "the father is greater than I".
  

  
  
  1 Corinth 11:3: tells us that "the head of Christ is God and Jesus is God's only begotten son.
  

  
  
  These are only just a few....there are many more that contridict the trinity and that support the trinity. I look forward to each of your thoughts on this topic.
  

  
  
  
• 
  21

  KH Builds are a statistical sham!

  by jeeprube in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  well my mother-in-law is spending the night and blabbing about their kh build.

  since i'm drinking whiskey (canadian if you must know), i feel like going on a rant.

  i'm sick of kh builds.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  On top of your points I have noticed in the past that there is a real push to be at the builds and when you miss a weekend or two and you show up again there are comments like "good to finally see you out here" and "glad you are finally able to help". Some people have more free time to spend than others and the one's who choose to spend a lot of time spend their time guilting the ones who simply do not have the free time. It is a shame. I have seen so much finger pointing at KH builds it makes me ill.
• 
  8

  Requirement for JWs to report sins of others to the elders--need source

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm looking for some pointed references that detail the requirement for jws to report the sins ("disfellowshipping offenses") of fellow members to the elders.

  i have the "a time to speak--when?

  " article from 1987 but was looking for more concise and direct statements in wt literature.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  I know there are some articles, but I will need to look them up on the CD ROM and get back to you. If I remember right it says if you catch someone in the act you need to talk to them first and convince them to seek help from the elders and you are to give them a reasonable time to do so and if they do not then you are to consult with an elder and let them take it from there.
• 
  26

  Who else is living in a "Sauna"

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  .

  it's hot 85f and very humid 95% right now.....ewwww so uncomfortable.. i don't recall seeing such a humid summer.......it must be the end.....

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  We live right outside of Dallas and it is 100 degrees with 45% humidity. We keep our air on 72 degrees upstairs and down because we like it cold. We sure feel it when the electricity bill comes though. The last two months it has been right around $1,000. Keeping cool comes with a price, but we have around 4,500 square feet we are cooling too.
• 
  15

  Last night She told me size DID matter.......

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  .

  so i decided to buy the correct shoe.. bet you thought this was about something else, huh?.

  too damn early in the morning -jus' messin' wicha.. jeff

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  Avengers,

  Your Watchtower covers kill me!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!
• 
  21

  Did you stop believing Armageddon is coming?

  by plmkrzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many just stopped believing in the jw predictions/description of what armageddon is all about?

  ive met exjws that stopped believing in everything they were taught and ive met some that stopped believing in everything except armageddon.

  ive heard comments like: boy wont they be surprised when the day comes and they find out they arent the only ones surviving.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  I do think it will come, but in God's time. If you do your best to live a Christian life and continue to study God's "real word" then I have confidence my family and I will be taken care of. After all, that is what the scriptures say.
• 
  59

  What outward signs of apostacy are evident in your house?

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if the elders came and inspected your home - what would they find?.

  a casual look around reveals a box of "narnia" tissues on my desk, 12 or 14 non-witness translations of bibles on my shelves, many non approved novels [wifey's] on the reading table, plenty of 'apostate literature', a book or two on meditation, a hypnosis cd for weight loss, prob many toys that are not witness approved in the g-kids room, a half eaten birthday cake, a birthday balloon, xmas wrapping paper in the closet , a couple of r rated movies, music that is not acceptable.. that is just at first blush.

  how is your house?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  The only thing they could get me on right now is our copy of Franz book "Crisis of Conscious", which we are finding to be quite enlightening!
• 
  68

  What Did You LOVE About Being a Jehovah's Witness?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok. minimus had his 'what did you hate about being a jw' thread, so i want to take a different tack on this.

  i'll even start it.

  i loved some of the get-togethers we had.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  I loved being asked over and over if I was married yet; and then being reminded how single sisters outnumber single brothers.

  I loved getting to save seats at District Conventions.

  I loved it at the District Conventions how we would clap every single time the speaker rose his voice.

  I loved getting to watch 400 falsh bulbs go off during the dramas.

  I loved having to look up a scripture in the book of Nahum during a talk; and by the time I found it, the brother had already finished reading it.

  I loved watching old brothers give public talks that talked about sexual relations and watching them have to make up all kinds of euphemisms for sexual terminology.

  Yes sir, . . . . . . . . . . . . those were the days

  Arthur,

  Man.....I laughed at every single one of those!!!!! Good post!!!
• 
  27

  The JW dress code.....yuck

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this morning i took a long walk and happened to walk near by a small christian church.

  and i could see them come out of the building after their meeting.

  they were all dressed differently, some in clean sunday clothes, some in clean jeans, but no one in a suit like the jw's do.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  I think that's why i worship naked now. :)

  Now that is funny!
• 
  24

  I guess I won't be re-appointed as a servant again.

  by rassillon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i will try to make a long story short.

  me and my wife (faithful jw) had a problem with an evil pioneer sister elder's wife in our former hall.

  through the course of trying to work it out we decided we would be better off in another hall.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Hamboozled

  They are threatened by recorders because recorders record the TRUTH! You did the right thing. The only thing I would have done different is I would have said "show me in the bible where I can't use a recorder and I will put it away". They might have DF'd you on the spot though. LOL!!!