Posts by spiceant

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What to do when your JW + Silentlamb pasts ends in relationship rejection

by feenx in

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i find myself today completely distraught, rejected and questioning myself for the first time in quite a while.

this past friday night i ran into my recent ex and some mutual friends, and the new guy she is seeing.

the very guy who she herself referred to previously as a "man whore.

spiceant

Why are we showing sympathy for self pity?

Why are you feenx letting her keep you at her low level and why are you letting her hurt you? She is living her life making her choices. You'r not going to her back or get some kind of divine justice rendered. Dont let her be an excuse for being unhappy, you are in control of your happyness. Fostering on bad pasts makes it fester. You reap what you sow. I suggest you let her go and forgive her completely and move on with your life. Play an instrument, sing something else delightfull or if you feel like it go the spiritual way of life. Think of your past as a big heap of fertilizer with a tree growing rapidly and enormously in it. From what it sounds like, your life can only get better from here, so cheer up:). Break the habit of bad thoughts and make a habit of seeking all the excuses not to be depressed but rather to cheer and be happy.

Be true and happy

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What was your 1st Deception as a JW?

by JH in

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was was the first thing that really decieved you, in your jw years?.

was it the way you were treated, or maybe a teaching that deceived you ?.

i think my 1st deception was when they said that the resurrected ones wouldn't be allowed to get married in the new system.. then i wondered why ???

spiceant

My time with Jehovah's Witnesses felt like i was digging in a gold mine only there was no gold only dirt. I stopped digging. all the philosophy and study was much too superficial for me and it never went deep enough. They were just showing me a tip of the iceberg and it scared me a lot that they teach a lot of things they have never written down anywhere. It's what they'r teaching but not saying that scared me.

How many of you felt like they were digging for gold to end up with a lot of dirt and hardship?

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Russel in satanic bloodlines?

by spiceant in

i came across this link i thought it quite interesting.

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/russell.htm.

regards,.

spiceant

I came across this link i thought it quite interesting

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/russell.htm

regards,

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misleading and being misled....

by thebiggestlie in

so now i've got the privilege of being a watchtower reader.

oh goody!

i can't help but think i'll be reading folks lies and absurdities... i hope i can keep my self from laughing and/or losing my breakfast.

spiceant

Good luck with whatever you do. Don't let anybody bite you down to bits. Your playing little does not serve you or anyone else. Don't get bit down to a hypocrite, you can definatly be very go(o)dly.

regards,

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Do j.w.'s use a "prayer book" and recite prayers?

by hubert in

when i went to my father-in-laws funeral last year, my j.w.

daughter and son-in-law went up to the casket in the funeral home, knelt there, and "prayed".

as i think back on this, i hear j.w.

spiceant

If it were possible i could be confused for thinking that they memorize prayers, atleast the ones where i am present. All The prayers sound much alike eachother. My prayers are (ofcourse... /sarcasm) much more heartly which results in my ego pushing me away from these particular JW's.

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Protect your assets, use a JW

by startingover in

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subject: excerpt from book.

"how to protect your identity and your assets" by j.j. luna.. .

although they call their church buildings "kingdom halls" we look them .

spiceant

The concentration camps officers of WW2 used to use prisoner JW's because they would comparetively not try to run away as often as other prisoners.

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elder exclusive literature - can't find

by spiceant in

i'm trying to find literature thats supposed to be only for the elders.

i would ideally apreciate a site with a list of all jw books and if possible all magazines (wt & awake!)..

i'm getting spooked off the co that in a conversation mentioned there was literature thats only for elders... and now i just need to know.. search function down and google isn't helping soo well either.

spiceant

I'm trying to find literature thats supposed to be only for the elders. I would ideally apreciate a site with a list of all JW books and if possible all magazines (WT & awake!).

I'm getting spooked off the CO that in a conversation mentioned there was literature thats only for elders... and now i just need to know.

Search function down and google isn't helping soo well either. Can i hold my breath on this?

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e-watchman mass banning

by spiceant in

recently e-watchman started deleting/suspending (theres a difference?

) accounts of people on the e-jehovahs-witnesses.com forum left and right which he and the moderating team deemed to be discussing apostate things as in apostate in brother kings own vision, further detailed in some posts (basicly barring out discussions of jw doctrine).. i suppose my own offenses was my "staying in the org.

" thread and one that explained that one should not depend on kh's to be able of worshipping.

spiceant

Recently e-watchman started deleting/suspending (theres a difference?) accounts of people on the e-Jehovahs-witnesses.com forum left and right which he and the moderating team deemed to be discussing apostate things as in apostate in brother Kings own vision, further detailed in some posts (basicly barring out discussions of JW doctrine).

I suppose my own offenses was my "staying in the org. Why?" thread and one that explained that one should not depend on KH's to be able of worshipping. (it has, in fact, come—when what you're called will not matter and where you go to worship will not matter. -John 4:23).

But thats not the point here, are ex-e-JW's regrouping somewhere? I have not seen any posts about it and the search phunktion is down.

regards, ant

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I just need to say anything

by spiceant in

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last thursday i left a mail at the mailbox of the co of the cong i atleast untill now still attend.

the mail concerned the child abuse issue, quoted the nytimes article alleging 24k recorded abusers, child abuse policy & some other things child abuse things that elude my mind.

today at the weekly watchtower brainwashing.

spiceant

Last thursday i left a mail at the mailbox of the CO of the cong i atleast untill now still attend. The mail concerned the Child Abuse Issue™, quoted the NYtimes article alleging 24K recorded abusers, Child Abuse Policy™ & some other things child abuse things that elude my mind. Today at the weekly Watchtower Brainwashing™. Today's WT Study™ disturbed me; "Respect our holy meetings™". I remember the absence of a little JW™ family with 2 children, i was sitting in their usual place.

The CO™ came to visit me where i was sitting after the meeting. He basicly called you and everyone else out here to be liars, said that the Borg™ would not allow any molestors any significant position and that we should reall just trust the Faithfull and Discreet Slave™. We will talk more abundantly in about 14 day's when we both have some time. I intend to bring some things along. This talk will determine wether or not i will do more drastic things like calling all JW's out to their own consciousness informing them i give them the choice of making me Lot when was saved from Sodom & Gomorra by the hand of an angel or Jona whom was so arrogant to think he was righteous. Well... something along the lines.

Summary: Dress up nicely, pay attention, don't play around, attend all meetings, teach your children. I don't remember any don't question the FDS™ remarks though. Last sunday WT Study™ was quite similar.

I should ask for some literature explainingw why the FDS™ should be noteworthy of my trust. Insofar my trust has plummeted by the same thing that disgusts me about McAmericans™ in general; Obesity, Mockery, Self righteousness, self deception, a general lack of common sense but most of all absence of genuin love & ignorance.

God i'm going crazy, this world is much to strange for me. Seriously.

† Resting In pieces - sanity †

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Big Question

by choosing life in

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friends

i know there may not be an answer to this question, but i am truly interested in other's views.

i know many are of various beliefs and some do not believe in god at all.. the question is: why does god not stop the suffering?

i watch so many suffer for no reason and no matter how i try to figure it out, i always come back to the fact that a loving parent would not allow their child to suffer needlessly.

spiceant

If God would just solve all the problems like child suffering and holocausts there would be no possibility to see how bad some people get and how good some people can be. If god solved everything, we could not do anything good because God would already have done it. And then we'd still be inexperienced and ignorant and doomed to re-do bad things. God does say that he cares about the weak and suffering many times in the bible and he will wipe all their tears and he will make their memory's a thing of the past forever, history. When a women suffers from birth-pangs she sometimes wishes she'd just die but when she cuddles the baby in her hands she forgets all the pain and suffering instantly. This world is temperory, the good will be eternal.

Can you make a gem smooth by rubbing it in silk?

Satan is included in the image, but WE have the choices and we cannot be cheated out of our options.Our choices are our own (each will carry his own load).

en gard, ant