Posts by uninformed

features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.

yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.

uninformed

Andersoninfo quoted:

The Bible might have incited wars, inquisitions and stake-burnings but had caused no harm to those needing life-saving blood transfusions during two world wars. In 1945, though, the faith’s handbook The Watchtower - under the editorship of one Nathan Homer Norr - carried the line “the stranger was forbidden to eat or drink blood, whether by transfusion or by the mouth”.
And that was it. In 64 years since, Jehovah’s Witnesses have bled to death for their faith. Little children have died on operating tables while their parents stood by and quoted scriptures. The wider world has looked on with a mixture of horror, pity, anger and incredulity.
The Old Testament books of Genesis and Leviticus and the New Testament Acts of the Apostles have now led to a young Shropshire woman, with everything to live for, making the ultimate sacrifice. It is inconceivable that Jehovah’s Witnesses - Christians who believe in love and mercy - would want this.
Perhaps, in the wake of Emma’s death, the faith’s leaders could now spearhead a doctrinal debate on the issue.
After all, the scriptures also advocate animal sacrifice and no one practises that any more. If we can jetison The Bible to spare the lives of lambs and kids, why not humans?
As the book of Revelations says: “And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain.”

Perhaps, in the wake of Emma’s death, the faith’s leaders could now spearhead a doctrinal debate on the issue.

Fat Chance of a debate on doctrine.

Uninformed

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Jehovahs Witnesses care for victims of child abuse RELEASE

by NotaNess in

i'm sure this article has come up on the forum.

can any one give me information on the numbers quoted below, in respect to them being inaccurate, correct, or what the number is more like, when you add in jw's that aren't elders, where it seems like they fail to mention here.

it almost seems they try and minimalize the the amount of abuse by only speaking of the elders here.

uninformed

SF--Good quote: (this was in your quote:)

If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there.

One little kid, little girl or little boy, facing a perpetrator that had previously told them he will kill them and their parents if they squeal, and 3-5 "ELDERS" that don't believe a thing kids say.

now that's what I call FAIR.

Brant

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Does anybody actually believe in the Global Warming swiz?

by The Nothing Man in

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obviously by my post title you can gather that i don't, but thats not to say i do not agree with lowering pollution in whichever way we can.

but on the flip side, just another money grabbing ploy by the government?

the uk government is making a big thing about it through their mouthpiece on earth, the bbc.

uninformed

Gore acknowledged that so far Clinton and Obama have devoted relatively little time to discussing their platforms on climate change. But, as he told CBS: "I'm not finished yet."

I beg to differ.

Brant

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VERY BAD NEWS...my son is going to Bethel............

by oompa in

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i can not describe the sadness of hearing him tell me, i asked him to think about what a great part time job he has, with free schooling.

he says they will probably take him back.

his abilities are suitable for closing down brooklyn, so at least he will be there (i love nyc).

uninformed

Open mind wrote:

If there's a silver lining to this, I'll share it. Look how many JWDers saw the light either AT Bethel or AFTER leaving. Seeing "how the sausage is made" at God's House might be what it takes to wake up your son.

Now that was funny.

Brant

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How many exjw's do you think there are out there now?

by Velvetann in

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i am not sure if anyone has asked this before but i am curious.

does anyone know approximately how many of us have left the watchtower society in the past 20 years.

it seems to me that it is compounding monthly lately.

uninformed

I have a feeling that over 2/3's of the people that were once witnesses are not now.

That would put about 12 million of us OUT, with 6 million in.

I was a witness for 45 years and saw a lot of people leave.

I had heard anecdotally that if everyone that ever was a witness was still active that the org would have 15 to 20 million.

Brant

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The Watchtower "Flag"--by request!

by Atlantis in

the watchtower "flag" by request!

request from researcher: atlantis, can you help me find this quote?

"at every convention resolutions were adopted by almost a unanimous vote approving the present management of the watch tower bible and tract society and its officers, pledging unreserved loyalty to the society.

uninformed

That quote is unbelieveable! I had heard it, even recently, but never hoped they would have it in print.

3 years ago, in June, at our district conv in Kansas City, at Kemper arena, the GB speaker in closing prayer, used the same words, pledge allegiance to the 'visible organization' the WT Society, and of course, we did not say AMEN.

I will also add it was the last assembly, the last meeting I will ever attend.

Good find.

Brant