Posts by doffy

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People who are mad at jw's. Should be mad at the bible?

by What_is_ur_point in

the bible is a serious book.. and the bible is a set of instructions set before mankind.

i believe being disfellowshipped the second time here makes me feel upset.

it would make anyone hurt frustrated or mad.

doffy

Wow.

tetrapod.sapien

I love you.

My favourite scripture is this

Ex 32:14

[quote] And Jehovah began to feel regret over the evil he had spoken of doing to his people[/quote] NWT

So, if it weren't for Moses then Jehovah would have 'exterminated' the lot of them. As it was because Moses, a mere mortal, reasoned with Jehovah, only about 3 thousand of them were slaughtered.

I stumbled across that scripture while I was pondering why God would kill (3 thousand) over the Golden Calf fiasco, and yet, then tells them to look at a Copper Snake later on. Go figure.

I'm not mad a JW's. I'm not mad at the bible. I suppose I am mad at God. Why is it that Moses could reason with him, but I am not afforded the same luxury? What if I could reason with God and make him regret the evil of annihalating the whole world (for example).

And then I suppose I am mad at people who blindly follow the bible, while the scriptures are right there (as quoted) which are vile and sickening.

Actually, take out the word 'mad', because that makes me sound bitter and nasty, and that's NOT how I feel. I just feel sad and sickened.

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14 years later- still a wreck! What's up with me!

by doffy in

the listener said on an earlier postyou've been out for awhile, perhaps your insight will help some of us who are still in the exiting process.

which was a lovely thing to say, and made me feel 'valued' (thanks listener!).

but, you know, 14 years on, and there are times, when i feel like i just left.. i took the children to the pictures yesterday (to see 'wallace & grommit').

doffy

gladdy! You're a lot like me- make it funny Nice to meet you

searcher- 'embarrased'. I hadn't thought of that. I don't think I was for my mum, but I may well have been afraid of being embarrased myself.. I will think about that. Thanks!

PaulJ, hee hee, good idea, keep moving house! Are you from the UK originally, or have you moved here from another part of the world? I'm 'up north'.

I must admit, if I see a JW that I knew when I'm out, it doesn't have the effect that seeing my mum does. I make sure I tell myself to straighten my spine! I put my chin up and smile. They are normally more embarrased than I am.

And even it had been my dad.... well, we would have spoken. It's just my mum. I am starting counselling next week, so maybe I will get to the bottom of things soon.

Thanks again for all the replies!

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14 years later- still a wreck! What's up with me!

by doffy in

the listener said on an earlier postyou've been out for awhile, perhaps your insight will help some of us who are still in the exiting process.

which was a lovely thing to say, and made me feel 'valued' (thanks listener!).

but, you know, 14 years on, and there are times, when i feel like i just left.. i took the children to the pictures yesterday (to see 'wallace & grommit').

doffy

enosant, welcome here. I am so glad you have found other ex JWs to talk to. Just knowing you are not alone can be a huge help.

And you are NOT alone. What you have said will have struck a chord with most people here. The pain we feel, and the feeling of 'not fitting in', is just unbearable sometimes.

I have been posting on another site for about 9 months now, and that has been a HUGE help in my healing process. Though, as you can see from the topic of this thread, I still find certain things very difficult to deal with. Thank goodness I have people, like those on here, who I can turn to, and have them understand, and have them give me advice!

Old Soul, yes, that was helpful! I wish I HAD spoken to her. Why should I have acted like I did? I am annoyed with myself! But then, as Lady Lee said, I need to explore WHY I acted that way- and I will.

So, a big thanks to all who have replied- ALL of your replies are very greatly appreciated

And a huge HELLO and big hug to enosant.

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14 years later- still a wreck! What's up with me!

by doffy in

the listener said on an earlier postyou've been out for awhile, perhaps your insight will help some of us who are still in the exiting process.

which was a lovely thing to say, and made me feel 'valued' (thanks listener!).

but, you know, 14 years on, and there are times, when i feel like i just left.. i took the children to the pictures yesterday (to see 'wallace & grommit').

doffy

The Listener said on an earlier post

You've been out for awhile, perhaps your insight will help some of us who are still in the exiting process

Which was a lovely thing to say, and made me feel 'valued' (thanks Listener!)

But, you know, 14 years on, and there are times, when I feel like I just left.

I took the children to the pictures yesterday (to see 'Wallace & Grommit')
After I had parked the car, I saw my mum pull up with my (JW) brother's 2 kids.
I really panicked.
As a side note, my parents have had NOTHING to do with me for years except when my (non JW) brother went to stay with them when he was very ill, and I went to see him at their house earlier this year.
They only want to see my children WITHOUT me. I have said they are welcome at my house, and I will take the children to their house, but, no, they only want to see them 'alone'. Which means they haven't seen them for nearly 3 years (I think).

I thought of turning on my heel and going home, but then I thought 'No!', why should I change my plans and spoil things for my children?
I was swearing under my breath.
So, I got to the desk to pay as quick as I could, and she was at the desk next to me.
I think it's safe to say that we BOTH pretended not to see each other, and neither one of us caught the others eye, or spoke.
I went to get the popcorn, and then went into the 'screen'.
My son told me where she was sitting, so I knew which way not to look!
We were sat right at the back, and she was about 4 rows in front.
I told the children they could go and speak to her if they wanted to. They didn't want to.
After the film finished, I told the children to wait till the credits had rolled (which we normally do anyway- sad - lol)
BUT my mum was messing about, and it got to the point where the last 2 people were leaving the 'screen', and we would have been alone *yikes*,
so we made a dash for it!
I mean, we didn't run, we just walked 'quickly'.
I didn't look back- it was like 'Lots Wife' lol
But I really felt like a nervous wreck. I don't like feeling like that, and I don't like my kids seeing me like that either.
So now I feel annoyed at myself.
Why do I still give her the Power?
What could I have done differently (taking into account my kids were there, and my brothers kids were there)
I mean, I'm just never 'prepared' to see her when I'm out, and it always gets me in a state.
The last time I saw her was in my local shopping centre, and I couldn't get out quick enough!
I know I need to get a grip.
Help! (be gentle with me though please)

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Ever have something weird happen in meeting, with APOSTATES!

by free2beme in

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friends

i was at a meeting one time and the elder was giving the talk on "sex and marriage" on a sunday.

i always hated this talk and the elder giving it always seemed uneasy with such a bold topic in a mixed age group.

well, right in the middle of the talk, this woman stood up and asked "so, are you saying oral sex is wrong?

doffy

That's too funny!!! If things like that happened I might have stayed just for the comedy value!

The only thing I remember was a drunk stumbling in and grabbing the mike on a Thursday night! Broke the boredom at least.

But that post has given me 'evil' ideas. tee hee. Might just go to a meeting to cause some bother now.

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Hello, new to posting here!

by doffy in

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friends

just wanted to pop in and say hi.. i'm from the uk and have made quite a few ex jw friends.

we have met up a few times, and it's great to be with others who understand (my sense of humour lol!).

i have been df for 14 years, and in the process became the black sheep of the family ( a familiar story).

doffy

Hello William! Nice to meet you to! Where abouts are you from?

Ah, yes, we still have cobbled streets here. tee hee. Everyone thinks 'up North' is Coronation Street! Actually, the Albert Dock (tourist attraction) does have some cobbles. Maybe that's because the Tourism Board didn't want to shatter peoples illusions. lol

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worldly, ex dub or current dub?

by pratt1 in

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for those of you in a serious relationship, is your partner "worldly", an ex dub, or a current dub?.

my wife is an ex dub like me.. it certainly helps that she understands why i am the way i am, and the actions of her in - laws.. what about you?

doffy

My hubby is 'worldly'. And as has been said, that's better in one way, as it means we have his family for support. He is very supportive of me too, as he has seen for himself the poop my parents have put me through.

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Well, I handled that amazingly well...

by Joel Wideman in

as my wife predicted, my mother heard that she da'd herself.

she called, and spoke with my boy for awhile.

(she needs her medication adjusted.

doffy

Well done Joel (and Andrea!)

"We would love to have dinner with you as a family. Myself, Andrea, the kids, and you."

Brilliant.

My dad told me (after years of my battling to keep in touch with them) that it was a mistake to ever have a relationship with me. Obviously that includes my children then. If they cannot respect me, my husband and my marriage, then they sure aren't having time alone with my children. I have said I will take the children to their house, and they are welcome in my house, but they will not be allowed the children on their own.

That was years ago, and was 'pretty much it'. The only time I have contact with me parents now is if one of my brothers is at their house (eg one of my borthers was sick, and I went to visit him while he stayed with my parents).

You have done the right thing. But you knew that already!

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You know your crazy, when you quote the Simpsons! but ...

by free2beme in

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friends

i work for a large corporation and if anyone else does, then they might understand what i am saying .... .

in the simpson series, there was an episode where bart and lisa are taken away from homer and marge and put into foster care with ned.

ned is so perfect, it drives homer nuts.

doffy

You're crazy if you quote the Simpsons???

AAAARRRGH.

That makes me crazy then. lol

Sorry to hear you're not appreciated in work. That sucks. Just tell them to eat your shorts.

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Tarot Cards

by free2beme in

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friends

i own five tarot card decks, and use them often.

not so often that i live my life by them, but enough.

one deck is one i use more then others, as i feel more of a connection with the cards.

doffy

I have Tarot Cards, wrapped in black silk, in a wooden box.

I don't really beleive that bad spirits can enter them... but hay, why take the chance??? (I'm weird I know) hee hee

Yes, they only seem to work for questions about me.I asked them about my parents, and they told me quite clearly things would never change.

If one doesn't like the probably outcome, they can 'step off that path' by making different choices

That's exactly right. Tarot show us what will happen if we continue on the path we are on. For example if I turned cards, and it showed a clandestine love affair, followed by complete destruction... well then I'd pretty much say, stop the affair!!! We chose our own paths, but sometimes a little guidance is appreciated.