This must be a difficult time for you now, and you are in our thoughts and prayers. Still, even if your point cannot be made to people with blinders on, I suggest you still run from this religion, if you can.
Karen
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first of all,sorry for being so late with my update.my wife got up at 8 am this morning so i didn't have the opportunity to be alone for a while.. as for the meeting last night,the elder was very civil,actually commended me for writing my questions down.he never made threaths,asked me if i read apostate material or if i still considered myself a jw.. we started with the 607 question.he will not believe any research beyond the wt's but said he'd do more research on it(all wt) so i guess that will go no where.he believes that ctr got it right by using the bible so i told him if it was figured out 130 years ago,it should be very simple to explain today.the only time he looked stunned was when i showed him from the wt that they once believed that jesus' presence began in 1874.he said he had never read that and tried to walk around it even when i asked him if jehovah wanted his people to believe something that wasn't true.. we beat around a few other questions with nothing concrete coming out of it.he did take my list home with him and said he'd look at them more carefully to get some scriptural answers.i also got the feeling that my wife got a spiritual boost from his visit which was very disheartening to me.anyways,i'm going to work on this 607 thing and see how things go.my wife asked me if i felt like we got somewhere and i said no.beibg told that something is the truth just because the wt says so just doesn't convince me anymore.. i'm attaching my questions,hopefully they show up here.thanks everybody,i feel really down,like i'm wasting my time.i've been wanting to run from this religion for years and here i am still fighting to prove my points.. goldminer.
p.s.-question files won't load-sorry.
This must be a difficult time for you now, and you are in our thoughts and prayers. Still, even if your point cannot be made to people with blinders on, I suggest you still run from this religion, if you can.
Karen
check out this website:.
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/.
i want one of these houses!
They are cute! But I can't think of a practical use for them!
karen
so now that you've left the cult, have you ever given or taken blood?
have your opinions and/ or beliefs in this area changed?
much to my suprise, one of my very good freinds who is not out still feels the way he was trained to feel.
My hubby asked me this last night, if I needed it would I take it. While I don't believe it's wrong to take it, something in the old blood brochure sticks with me: They referenced someone who said blood is like an organ, you have to make sure you have a good match, more than blood type or RH factor. Does anyone have more info on this? Or am I just hanging on to old brain washings?
Karen
i was reading the "mobile phone" thread and then found the article below on the official wt web site.
i'm surprised they don't tell people to empty the garbage and polish their shoes when they get horny rather than engage in phone sex.
why the wt feels the need to comment on these topics is really beyond me, but it's good for a laugh.. http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2004/2/22b/article_01.htm.
Why is it ok for someone in Brooklyn to buy this book, read it and quote from it for the sake of research, and I couldn't do the same? What if I wanted to buy the complete commentary on Josephus? No, I was told the society's books were all I needed to read. What a crock!
Karen
i accidentally wiped some files from my computer.
one of the wiped files was my favorite mastercard parody of all time,.
it is the one where the young man asks his date for a blowjob - the price 20 daollar bottle of wine.
Could you share the url with us too, please?
Karen
i snitched on a sister who used to spend a lot of supposed field service time in a local cafe, but she still counted the time.
she was spoken to by a couple of elders and was never seen in that cafe again.
of all the things i did as a "loyal" jw, i feel worst about my snooping on this really nice lady.
This was an older sis who felt it was her responsibility to let the younger sis's know you could not go out in FS without panty hose on!
C'mon! My salvation depends on whether I am wearing hose in 90 degree heat with 86% humidity?
hope springs eternal in the wts.
despite having left before even being baptized, i would have to say my parents still wholeheartedly believe i will someday come around, .
get baptized, become active and maybe even become an elder !
My family are not dub's, but I met my husband on my way out. When I started surfing this site, he was trying to be supportive saying" If you want to go back, I will respect your decision". Are you out of your f**king mind?
karen
do you think it's funny?.
not when seniors fall or kids or anything but when someone wipes out spectaculary and doesn't hurt themselves do you find it funny?.
last week my boyfriend was helping his brother build a deck.
If you find people falling amusing, then you will like this....
Click here: Falling lady or http://www.izpitera.ru/lj/tetka.swf
If she gets stuck, you can use your mouse to move her.
karen
while you were still in, did you ever just decide to go it on your own rather than ask the brothers for help.
i was telling a friend today about the time i broke my ankle.
it was after a dub get-together and when in the next morning the shock wore off and it was apparant the bone was broken and i needed to get to the hospital to have it looked at, i chose to ride 10 miles on the same motorcycle i broke it on because it didn't occur to me to turn to my brothers for help.
When I was dub and me and my ex were moving, he had no trouble asking for help - there would be less for him to do! But when the guys put my sofa on top of the moving truck to bring it in on the second floor, I couldn't watch. They put the sofa on first, then moved the truck into position, and a bro was sitting on the sofa! It got up there ok, but geez, use a brain!
karen
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thought this was cool!.
click here: falling lady or http://www.izpitera.ru/lj/tetka.swf
Oh, and if she gets stuck, you can use your mouse to move her to continue.
karen