Posts by carla

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My unbelieving husband was offended by the WatchTower just studied

by Isambard Crater in

it was the paragraph talking about people who don't want to be j.w's being executed, and it being an act of compassion from jehovah towards his witnesses..

carla

He ought to look at some of the old stuff! he would be downright apoplectic

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i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

carla

Just a thought from a non jw, never been, never will ubm- just because you tell the truth about something doesn't mean you are 'bashing' them. Though it will sound like it to a jw, that in itself should tell you something. If they had any sort of truth they wouldn't mind scrutiny.

Best of luck and my only tip is to never use the word 'cult' with your jw's.

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Alternative witnessing

by Zyron in

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friends

those of us still attending meeting are actively encouraged to use out tablets or smartphones to direct people to jw.org.

how about, after doing the standard presentation casually say to householder, you can also look at this forum to read of experiences of life as a jw as well as the official version?.

obviously you need to be working by yourself or with a pimo jw..

carla

Shepherdless, would a jw get a talking to by an elder eventually if they did that on a regular basis? and how do jw's not do that on a regular basis? My house is a do not call so I haven't seen their presentation in awhile.

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Alternative witnessing

by Zyron in

jw
friends

those of us still attending meeting are actively encouraged to use out tablets or smartphones to direct people to jw.org.

how about, after doing the standard presentation casually say to householder, you can also look at this forum to read of experiences of life as a jw as well as the official version?.

obviously you need to be working by yourself or with a pimo jw..

carla

If you were brilliant enough you could make a flash of "Help, I am stuck in this cult! Do not go to jw dot org. You may risk losing life and family if you do. Please do not let my jw partner know you saw this. Thank you." It would flash fast and if you kept your device tilted just so your jw 'friend' would not even see it.

Well, something more clever but you get the idea.

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Unwritten Theory

by moreconfusedthanever in

have any of you heard some theories from jws that are not based on scripture?

i have, in the past few days, heard a couple that have me shaking my head.. first one is that since satan was around during the creation period and probably watched on as things were being made, it is possible that he is responsible for the creation of some of the more hideous and nasty creatures that live among us.

surely god wouldn't make horrible things.. second one is that satan already had a bad attitude before the creation of adam and eve and was collecting followers among the other angels early on and stirring trouble.

carla

Not positive put pretty sure my jw believes satan made things like mosquitoes, ticks, flies, etc....sigh. Some things in life you are just better off not knowing so that is why I don't outright ask him. (besides it would violate the unspoken rule of not discussing jw things). I already think he is half nuts for being involved with them in the first place, if I truly knew every goofy thing he believed I'm not sure I would be ever be able to keep a straight face while talking with him.

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Re: Mentally diseased

by carla in

i have been thinking about the mentally diseased belief/doctrine of jw's lately and the thread the other day about the mentally challenged child who was brutally (and humorously) honest at a convention got me to wonder something.

it seems to me that jw's use 'mentally diseased' in such a derogatory way as if it is a failing on the part of the person, or almost sinful (demons?

), or perhaps that person should just be dismissed on all counts all the time.

carla

I have been thinking about the mentally diseased belief/doctrine of jw's lately and the thread the other day about the mentally challenged child who was brutally (and humorously) honest at a convention got me to wonder something.

It seems to me that jw's use 'mentally diseased' in such a derogatory way as if it is a failing on the part of the person, or almost sinful (demons?), or perhaps that person should just be dismissed on all counts all the time.

Now, what if someone truly is mentally challenged in some way shape or form? do they even stop to think that their perception of mentally challenged people might hurt feelings of said person or that of their parents and family?

Or do they have a twofold belief of mentally challenged? one being those who truly are (downs syndrome, etc..) and those who 'choose' to be by claiming they are anointed? What is your experience in a kh?

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Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

by AndersonsInfo in

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

blood transfusion case before supreme court.

mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

carla

If the child isn't baptized then technically the child is not a jw, right? don't they use the "he's not a real jw" when someone commits a heinous crime? if the guy wasn't baptized then the jw's don't consider him to be a 'real' jw. (That's the line my jw gives.) Why should it be any different for the children?

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Classic situation at Circuit Assembly Day

by freddo in

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friends

so i've just skived off to the car park half way through our assembly day - what a classic morning.. i'm sat right behind an early-teen kid with some sort of special needs (autistic?

) who's sat with what looks like his late-30's harassed single parent mother.

(or married to an unbelieving mate?

carla

Gotta love the pure honesty of some special needs kids! Pure unfiltered honesty.

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This week's "Give Us Your Money" meeting item.

by freddo in

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friends

if you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?

just the video or some commentary too?.

i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".

carla

Haven't they historically begged for money in late Oct- November? maybe more subtle, but I do remember Nov. seemed to be the time they would have articles about giving blah, blah, blah.... Why do I remember that? because I was always thinking that my jw better remember Christmas is right around the corner! ah, the joys of living in a divided house. Not that we discussed it but it hung around in the air, one of many unspoken topics.

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Your donations at work: WT Farms “inspirational” corn maze

by betterdaze in

“best life ever” is displayed at watchtower farms, near pine bush.

the jehovah’s witnesses' maze is a work of devotional art, and not intended for exploration like the pagan ones made for hudson valley tourists every halloween.

source: lohud.com.

carla

They are at it again! From the Smithsonian-

".....Mazes have an ancient history spanning thousands of years—though the first mazes weren't mazes at all, but labyrinths, with a single winding path not meant to confuse or puzzle the way we think of traditional mazes. Labyrinths were first designed as spiritual journeys to guide the visitor along a single path, twisting yet serene. The first recorded labyrinth comes from Egypt in the 5th century B.C.; the Greek historian, Herodotus......"https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/winding-history-maze-180951998/