If the child isn't baptized then technically the child is not a jw, right? don't they use the "he's not a real jw" when someone commits a heinous crime? if the guy wasn't baptized then the jw's don't consider him to be a 'real' jw. (That's the line my jw gives.) Why should it be any different for the children?
Posts by carla
-
41Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.
blood transfusion case before supreme court.
mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.
-
-
-
20
Classic situation at Circuit Assembly Day
by freddo inso i've just skived off to the car park half way through our assembly day - what a classic morning.. i'm sat right behind an early-teen kid with some sort of special needs (autistic?
) who's sat with what looks like his late-30's harassed single parent mother.
(or married to an unbelieving mate?
-
-
carla
Gotta love the pure honesty of some special needs kids! Pure unfiltered honesty.
-
46
This week's "Give Us Your Money" meeting item.
by freddo inif you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?
just the video or some commentary too?.
i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".
-
-
carla
Haven't they historically begged for money in late Oct- November? maybe more subtle, but I do remember Nov. seemed to be the time they would have articles about giving blah, blah, blah.... Why do I remember that? because I was always thinking that my jw better remember Christmas is right around the corner! ah, the joys of living in a divided house. Not that we discussed it but it hung around in the air, one of many unspoken topics.
-
21
Your donations at work: WT Farms “inspirational” corn maze
by betterdaze in“best life ever” is displayed at watchtower farms, near pine bush.
the jehovah’s witnesses' maze is a work of devotional art, and not intended for exploration like the pagan ones made for hudson valley tourists every halloween.
source: lohud.com.
-
-
carla
They are at it again! From the Smithsonian-
".....Mazes have an ancient history spanning thousands of years—though the first mazes weren't mazes at all, but labyrinths, with a single winding path not meant to confuse or puzzle the way we think of traditional mazes. Labyrinths were first designed as spiritual journeys to guide the visitor along a single path, twisting yet serene. The first recorded labyrinth comes from Egypt in the 5th century B.C.; the Greek historian, Herodotus......"https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/winding-history-maze-180951998/
-
41
Things I Cant Stand Since Leaving Watchtower
by pale.emperor inwhat a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.
now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.
little kids in suits.
-
-
carla
"... turns up to the convention in a white suit, sunglasses and white shoes."- Wouldn't a jw get in trouble for that? standing out too much? or were you joking?
-
-
-
carla
Nice winged symbol! a quick Google search -
"Going back even further, it seems likely the winged skull symbol was an evolution of winged disk and winged figure symbols. Found in many ancient cultures around the world, the winged disk almost always represents solar energy. The Assyrian winged disk represents the sun God Shamash; the Egyptian figure, the sun God Re. Some believe the figure is based on the appearance of the sun's corona during a solar eclipse. This ancient symbol has several embodiments of the alchemical “union of opposites”, an ancient doctrine which accepts a syncretism of conflicting views, a harmony as opposed to a never-ending conflict between Good and Evil."
With all the superstitions jw's have and how things in the past were use for xyz (name your evil thing) how can they not look on the entire wt org with it's winged symbols (not to mention the wt symbol itself) and not get the willies?
Can't have a birthday because once someone got their head lopped off at a birthday party (forget one guy got to live) but it is ok to use symbols of questionable beginnings (in their minds) because they no longer have any 'meaning'? how do current jw's reconcile this in their minds? put it on the back burner and hope it goes away?
-
21
Shunning: Extreme apathy!
by StephaneLaliberte ini thought i'd share this one with the group.
many years ago, my mom was disfellowshipped.
then, my sister passed away in a car accident, she was fairly young, as she was in her early 20s.
-
-
carla
Pepperheart, yes, take the books and rags but do not dispose of them. Keep them or send them to an anti jw organization/ministry, etc... some jw's do not believe previous teachings and need to see the actual books & mags and even then they sometimes think some apostate made the offending old light rag just to trick them, real story, not for today though.
-
11
so its discussions with people..
by zeb inso the wt mag is all but gone just a few a year.
thus a big gap in the sunday program?
no more year books.
-
-
carla
"are told they will witness with a conversation"- how damn stupid is that?! They have to be told to have an actual conversation with people? wow! who knew?
Now, how many jw's can actually have a real conversation with people? Meaning, will they stop to listen to what the door has to say rather than have a ready stock answer from their clam meeting? How can they have real conversations when they are not allowed to look at opposing information? they are uninformed about all the sexual abuse cases, etc...etc...
-
23
Update on the $4000 day fine - Padron v Watchtower
by berrygerry infrom reddit:.
this was an oral argument to dismiss the $4000/day fine.
both sides presented their arguments and now the judges will write an opinion (30 to 90 days).
-
-
carla
Thank you for the update! I was just thinking about that case the other day.
-
25
Who has a harder time leaving JW's - Born Ins or those who converted?
by HeyLittleGirl inmy freind (who is also out) and i were talking about this the other night.
i was a born-in, 3rd generation jw and she converted when she was in her late 20's.. when she left, she said that she knew the world wasn't as bad as she was told as a jw, so she knew she would be fine.
also, she still had lots of "worldly" family who welcomed her back with open arms.. it was harder for me - i had nobody in the "world", no family or freinds.
-
-
carla
Tough call. Born in's will lose so much more than a convert (family, friends & possibly employment, etc..). As the above poster mentioned adapting to the outside world would be much harder for a born in.
On the other hand, the convert who has been annoying family & friends the whole while will have to eat some serious crow in their minds. You know how hard a newbie jw tries to convert family & friends with the 'truth'! Most of us non jw's would not even bring it up and be overjoyed if our loved ones left the cult. Heck, my family gets excited when my jw skips out of fs or meeting on the rare occasion. Naturally we say nothing if he skips out, we just act as if it is any other day. You can't imagine the elation if he actually left.