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  first timer

  by DramaQueen in

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  this is my first time on this web site.

  i learned about it from my mom who also posts here.

  i used to be a jw but was (thankfully) never baptized, and because of that (the fact that i am no longer a jw) it has kept me from talking to my grandmothers, some of my uncles, and my aunts and also some of my cousins.

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  Welcome to the forum DQ!

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  Longtime JWs: Can you recall the path of JW doubts throughout your life?

  by ithinkisee in

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  have any of you who were ever "raised in the truth" really traced your doubts back to as early as you remember?

  i would be interested in hearing what they were.. i started tracing my path of doubts.

  doubts as a child:.

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  Well ...

  I started having serious doubts about age 20/21 years. I was trying to think of what to do with my life since floatng through high school with no direction (why bother, I would never graduate before this "old system" was no more!). I observed that if the GB tolerated cigeratte smoking for years, what else was God holding back? Just how old was the generation of 1914 going to get? This terminated my sense of GB infallibility in so far as their knowing with God thought.

  The proverbial camel back braking straw though was the behaviour of most of all the young people around me (moved among several congs. in my region). Teenagers and young adults in the various social cliques would turn on each other like wolves when one of them got "caught" doing something, pressuring others to "keep their mouths shut" or else experience social death. Since it was often over the usual petty stuff, I couldn't give my alliegance to an organization that couldn't realistically accomodate regular young people. A "Nazereen" lifestyle isn't for everyone but why were we made to feel so worthless and guilty?

  Durng this period occurred I had my first real job in a bank which propelled me to go back to University (the local elders were a little worried but I was well liked since I had never been "in trouble--had a very lonely,boring teenage life to pay for this goodwill though!). That job was my first immersion among "worldly" people and opened my eyes to what a strange little group of people I was isolated within.

  So I just faded away and never looked back (until I popped on this site)

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  CO says not to read anything on here. So here I am. Hello

  by ocsrf in

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  my history,.

  47 years doing the jw thing from the age of 3.. many good times and many times i thought i was worthless especially as a teenager.

  couldn't be good enough to please some elders.

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  Welcome to the form ACSIF (did I get that right?).

  I remember that worthless feeling as a teenager. You could never be "perfect" enough, you could'nt do too well at school or follow your talents (I wanted to be a soldier-that wouldn't have gone over too well!) or make real friends there as well (and more often than not, not inside the cong. either if you followed the rules). It was the org.'s inabilty to deal with normal adolescence behaviour that finished it for me in my early twenties.

  When somebody tells you what not to read, start asking questions about their motivations!

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  Today's speaker - statistics re terrorism

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  according to today's speaker: up till 1971 there had only been 24 people killed by terrorists.

  by 1983 there had been 17,000 and it's still on the rise.

  my question: what is the definition of terrorism?

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  Whiskeyjack

  I wonder if he was counting British victims of Zionist terrorists in the 1940's in Palestine?

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  I am new here, former JW left years ago.

  by out of the box in

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  i want to discuss my experiences with the witnesses.

  how it began: i was recruited during the time i was escaping from a violent husband to a shelter.

  a witness came to my door as i was preparing to move during the day without him knowing (while he was at work).

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  Welcome to the forum outofthebox!.

  Interesting story for a former "lifer" like me.

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  New here

  by ameliasmom in

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  i have been "lurking" here for a while and just wanted to share with those that would, maybe, understand what i go through sometimes.

  my dad's family were mostly all witnesses.

  my most vivid memories of my grandfather as a child were of his recording all of the assemblies (or conventions, as i suppose they are called now) and listening to them over and over.

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  Welcome AM!

  Very familiar story. Luckily for me, some of my relatives are fairly "rebellious" in the shunning department though I wonder what would happen if our (me and my sibs') faded status changed.

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  Kristi died about 30 mins. ago

  by Frannie Banannie in

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  for those of yall that didn't know, kristi was a 37-yr-old ms patient that i took care of for the last year of her life.

  she had a wonderful ribald sense of humor and talked like a sailor at times.

  but it was all to cover up the ultra-sweet and tender heart she had.

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  Frannie,

  I was saddened to read your post but heartened that this young lady knew how much she was loved by those around her. This is the greatest thing we can do for each other no matter how many years each of us may get on this Earth.

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  Gilead students told...other JWs are a bunch of slackers!

  by sir82 in

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  more blessings from the gilead instructors.... "it was brought out that christendom and the world smacks of .

  baalism today.

  sad to say, like the israelites sometimes even jehovah's .

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  Ain't elitism grand?

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  The first time I've been "down" b/c of JWD...

  by upside/down in

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  i've had good and bad days since stumbing onto jwd... and i've learned more in my short time here than in the last 20 years as an "active" and true to the bone...dub.... but today (tonight) i'm really sad... the tone of almost every thread i read has gotten "ugly".... i love "spirited" discussion, but this is different.

  it feels like forum anarchy.. is there no yielding anymore...?.

  maybe it was just too much happened today... or solar flares or something... i don't know...don't care.... maybe my new found "love" for my country (not the blind patriotic crap) and life coupled with the obvious animosity toward this love by some...well just bums me out.

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  U/D,

  I appreciate your posts and want to thanks you for the chuckles. Posting on a forum does represent challenges in civility when arguing (when you're there in person, you do have to put your chicklets at risk if you cross over that line!) over important issues. We all realize we're part of the "world" now so it is important to talk about these issues even if our "betters" would prefer we didn't (as you pointed out).

  I have a very black sense of humour (Anglo-Irish-so amazing family rows!) but I don't type it down because some posters might find it hurtful and you usually won't get a chance to apologize in a timely manner! As I become more skilled in this type of communication I hope to use more humour with my fellow posters/arguers/debaters.

  From debate comes learning. I value the opportunity to learn what others are thinking and the view from their "end". Debate is critical in a democratic society especially now that corporations (with no societal mission other than making more bucks and enriching their executives and shareholders) control most of our media.

  Let's all do our best to be civil (doesn't mean we can't fight once and a while!) and watch how we type.

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  First time on here- DF'd almost 3 years ago

  by feelinglost in

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  2. friends

  i have toyed around with the idea of finding fellow df'd ones for about a year now.

  i recently got married, and of course it has made me look at how it feels like i gave up one life for another.

  the only member of my family who is a jw is my mother- and it kills me that we pretty much no longer have a relationship.

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  Welcome to the forum Feeling!

  This is a great place for discussing just about anything. We've got all kinds of people here (athiests, agnostics, christians, and a wiccan or two even!) but we're all a part of a pretty unique "community" that is hard for "regular" individuals to understand. It's great to have others with similar experiences to talk to and argue with!

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