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Is a rapid graceful exit possible?
by besty inwe will find out soon.
as a brief update my wife sweet pea and i have 'announced' to a few friends and close family - less than 10 altogether - that we are no longer going to meetings.
some friends have probed for details, others don't want to know.
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Jerry Bergman
by besty incan anyone recommend which of his books to start reading?
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regardsy besty
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Preaching Work is unique identifier
by besty inseveral conversations with current jw's have thrown up this validation of their faith.
i can think of several lines of refutation: .
1 - ask 'is increase proof of gods blessing?
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Moving house and making your Record Cards disappear - can it be done?
by besty inwe might have the opportunity to move away to a different continent soon.
seems to me a good idea to try and get our record cards out of our local cong.
and make them disappear.
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Why they won't try again...
by besty ini have spoken to two jw's today's who are well acquainted with my non-conformist stand and absence from the meetings.
much difference in their readjustment approach <emotional v logical> but they shared this in common: .
they both explicitly refused my invitation to pursue the conversation to another session - both said they saw no basis for 'getting anywhere' and didn't see the point of endless conversations...i accept that but also think... .
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1 Tim 3:1-10 promotes an organisation
by besty inspeaking with a hardline friend (oxymoron alert) tonight he used the above verse as proof that jehovah needs a hierarchical organization - otherwise why stratify the membership?
any refutation?
cheers .
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Had The Big Chat with my wife...
by besty inafter being a long time fader and lurking here for a few years i finally had the courage to speak to my wife the other day
she was complaining about how we never get invited back to other jw's houses despite being fairly hospitable ourselves and how she's made some new worldly friends that werre non-judgemental and just nice people.
she also mentioned her mum (also jw but weak - split up from her jw husband) was struggling with the routine and had lots of nice friends out of the kh.
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Is Fading a DF Offense?
by besty inwife sweet pea and i are just starting the 2nd phase of our fade, which as we are already inactive and at 50% meeting attendance, means stopping going altogether.. supposing the elders decide they want to make a shepherding call - which we naturally decline - could they announce us as 'no longer known as jw's' for declining the call, not being at meetings and being inactive?.
what if we did take the shepherding call and told the elders we just weren't coming back, with no specific reasons given?
they would be bound to ask if we still believed the fds doctrine, which we could lie about use theocratic warfare strategy and say we were just a bit depressed, with money worries, struggling with the routine etc and would probably be back soon.. thoughts?.
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WT Library Lite
by besty indid anybody else hear the announcement made this week that for 2007 there will be a new version of the wt library being made available?
essentially its a cut-down version with simplified search capability
wasn't listening all the way through but i think it will be additional to the standard version, also on the same cd.
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how would you respond
by besty ini had a shepherding call a while back and expressed some doubts about the org.
one of the elders asked 'if you know what you know now, would you still have got baptised?
sensing a bit of a leading question, i ducked it by replying 'impossible to say'