Posts by Honesty

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Elders, apostasy and disfellowshipping issue's - thoughts please

by FeelingFree in

jw
friends

ok so... when i was talking to my mil about why i no longer wanted to be a witness she kept trying to convience me that i needed to speak to the elders.

i said from the word go i didn't feel the need to as my mind was already made up and no one could change it.

i also said if the elders new all my reasons for leaving they would view me as an apostate and i would get disfellowshipped.

Honesty

As a former member of 'the Body' I can assure you that if you tell the elders all the reasons you can't return to the kingdom hall you will be labeled much more than 'spiritually weak' and more than likely will be DF'd for apostasy.

If you want your MIL and dad to see just how loving the Watchtower's shepherds are then you should meet with them and spill your guts.

It may wake your family up and they might leave the cult, and then again it may cause them to get closer to Geehover and shun you for the rest of your life.

It's your call.

Personally, I would ignore them.

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I am sooo screwed

by Yondaime in

so last night i was talking to my sister about how i admired president obama's speech to the u.n that happened earlier that day.. i then compared the extremism of isis to how much of a fanatic my jw bil is.. at the end of the statement , my mom walked in to the kitchen.

she was standing in the living room and she heard everything i said.. she called the elders that night to tell them what i said so they can counsel me.. i'm going to meet with them after the meeting on sunday!.

what do i do?!!!!!.

Honesty

Why do you feel it necessary to meet with them?

48

A few questions for believers

by keyser soze in

jw
friends

when confronted with all of the inconsistencies and atrocities of the bible, many believers invariably claim that they don't base their faith in christ on what's written in the bible.

so what is the basis then, if not scripture?.

and please don't tell me "the lord has revealed himself to me".

Honesty

Perry posted it like it was for me too.

Another problem as a JW was that I asked Jehovah to forgive me when I should have been asking Jesus to forgive me.

As soon as I put all my trust in Jesus and asked Him to forgive me my whole world changed for the better.

I suggest you read Romans and Galatians beginning at chapter 1 in each book and ask Jesus to reveal Himself to you.

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Why did the Organisation abandom WBBR radio station , Why did they start it up?

by smiddy in

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Honesty

Most people listen to the radio during their commute to and from work and today's consumer would rather listen to music, sports talk radio, etc. than ruin their day by getting put to sleep by some "the end of the world is soon, soon, soon!" monotonous fool who barely finished high school.

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Blown away-- where to go from here

by All for show in

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friends

i stumbled upon this website a few weeks ago due to the jw.org ridiculousness, since then i haven't been able to pull myself away.

the thoughts, feelings, and concerns i have had the past few years aren't just mine.

it's global.

Honesty

Take your time and thoroughly research the history of the denomination.

It may help to have your husband assist you.

Within a month of serious research you will realize what many of us found out.

We were deceived by a bunch of false prophets.

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Watchtower Takes in $2 Million Conditional Loan and Won't Return the Loan, Is it True?

by BucketShopBill in

i heard several stories of the watchtower taking in loans and donations given by rich witnesses who have fallen on to hard times and asked for the money back and the watchtower won't return the money.

have you ever heard of the watchtower only paying the money back on "conditional loans" once legal experts get invovled?

one of the stories that is around is a family donated a large chunk of their nest-egg to the watchtower and the husband got sick and the branch refused to contact him when he asked for his conditional donation back, would the watchtower screw people out of their money?

Honesty

They screwed a sister out of over $30,000 she loaned the kingdom hall to pave the parking lot.

3 months after she loaned the kingdom hall the $$$$ she received a letter from the Watchtower Society thanking her for her genorous donation.

The wicked elders sent her money to the Watchtower Society, turned around and borrowed the $$$ back from the society and tacked it onto the kingdom hall mortgage payment to the society.

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"how did we do?" service meeting part

by nowwhat? in

the elder was just giddy with excitement!

20,000 hours put in!

14,000 tracts and brochures!

Honesty

What a crock of poo poo!

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Debating JW's

by will brooks in

hi,.

i'm new in this forum and it seems from a quick recce that jw's give this site a miss?

is there a site that jw's use - other than their official one which is restricted to active jw's?.

Honesty

A lot of JW's use this forum:

www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness

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Topics Ive Been Pondering On

by JWINQUESTION in

this is my first post on here so bear with me.

currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

Honesty

The reason things practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses bother you is because God's spirit is making you aware of them.

As far as the morality taught by the Watchtower Society; it is skewed and distorted because no matter how hard anyone tries to live a morally upright life it is out of our reach because all of us are sinners.

If you try to go it alone you will fail miserably at maintaining moral purity.

The only way that you can have a measure of it is through the Holy Sprit, which the Watchtower lies and says is available in full measure to only 144,000.

I suggest that you read Romans (especially chapter 8) and Galatians in a real bible instead of the perverted New World Translation where you will find treasures from God which will lead you to the Holy Sprit.

He will then lead you into all truth and give you a peace you have never experienced.

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The insensitivity and opportunistic nature of witness at the 9/11 site !

by stuckinarut2 in

i saw an online post with pictures of all the witnessing carts all around the 9/11 site during the anniversary of the tragedy.... im appalled at how opportunistic they are, and how they prey on people in a mourning and vulnerable state!.

apparantly they boast of: "there are 65 carts, with 200 witnesses manning the area... and so far 15 new studies started!".

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Honesty

Can you post a link to the online photos.

I would like to see this for myself.