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  A former "Bethelite" JW's friend of mine wants to "Disassociate".

  by booker-t in

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  a friend of mine that was at bethel when the "change" came out about the "generation of 1914" in 1995 wants to "disassociate" himself but is terrified that his family especially his mother(who is of the annoited) will totally shun him.

  his whole family are jw's his uncle an elder, his sisters pioneers, etc; any advice i could give him?

  i know what it is like since my mom has been a devout jw's since 1967.

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  I encourage the fade in a case like this. It worked for me....so far....
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  MICHIGAN PEOPLE!!!...Multi-millionaire witness Pat Patterson.....

  by integ in

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  anyone heard of this guy?.

  he built up an insurance agency in michigan, and sold it for over 10 million dollars.. apparently, at his big office in novi, michigan, he only hires witnesses and they are all making big bucks.. i know an agent who was going to work for him in another state (they do business in 10 states i think), but declined to sign up when he found out the organization was owned and operated by witnesses.. he said: "that explains the ridiculously low commissions they pay their agents".

  they sell alot of life insurance.. why would this witness owned agency push life insurance if the end is so near???.

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  Are there any witnesses from Novi, MI who can tell us more? Inquiring minds want to know.

  I wish there had been a millionaire in some of my old congregatons.
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  I'm Attending the Memorial

  by RichieRich in

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  my lovely girlfriend and i sat down over a homecooked meal, and discussed the pros and cons of attending the memorial.. i decided, with her support, that we would attend.. i spent years of my life pretending to be a witness to please my mother.

  when i left the witnesses, my mother said some hurtful things.. and those things really hurt me... for a while.

  but i established myself as my own person, developed my own relationships, and have gotten a good start on my own life.. i don't know that i want to hurt my mother back, but i do want to make it abundantly clear to her, my grandmother, and all the members of my former congregation, that richierich is alive and kicking.. and i think that walking into the kingdom hall, dressed respectfully in a suit, yet with full piercing jewelry intact, and with erika wearing something classy that steals the brother's eyes, and draws glares from the humble sisters, will be just the thing to send that message to my mother.. i don't plan on partaking or making a disturbance.

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  Richie,

  I admire your strength. You have done well. Perhaps going will give some young ones hope that they can break free and live the life they deserve and perhaps desire.

  Good luck man.
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  I cant continue to live like this i really need help

  by Tryin2FindAnewMe in

  1. jw
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  ok im trying desperatley just to be done with everything.

  i'm so depressed because it feels as though i'm living my life wrong.

  why cant i get from under the dark cloud, that keeps me down.

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  Trying2find,

  I am glad you found this site. You'll meet a lot of nice helpful people. You will also get a good view of lots of different belief systems.

  Please feel free to post your feelings here. You will get a listening ear.

  Good luck.
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  They question/analyze everything- except the Watchtower

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  many of you were probably the type to question everything or analyze everything, yet .

  just accept whatever the wts says.

  you broke out of that.

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  TheListener

  What a good thread.

  My wife and I have an unspoken agreement. She doesn't get upset and irritated with me for not attending the meetings (at least in front of me) and I don't try to bug her with anti-WT information.

  In fact, my wife doesn't really know why I am not an active witness anymore. We have no open communication on the subject of the WT. She does not want to know what I've found or what I think on the subject.

  My children on the other hand have seen the hypocrisy of those who are witnesses.

  I strive to be a great father and a loving husband. My wife's activity level has dropped but she still believes it all.

  I just keep living my life in such a way that I can be proud and hope and pray that one day she'll see the light herself.
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  Tennessee JW claims 9 baptized at assembly, 1960 attended.

  by gaiagirl in

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  i just received a report from an active jw who went to a circuit assembly in eastern tennessee, stating that attendance was 1960 for the sunday address.

  he also stated that 9 were baptized, giving a "growth rate" of 0.46% (if one assumes that all 9 were bible studies, and not merely children of jw parents).

  sounds as if "the love of the greater number is cooling off" in tennessee : ) well, i'm sure that's what jw's would say, anyway.

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  Junction-Guy, you have a study? ROFLMAO!! That is great! How do you hide your feelings while they're there. What is the status of your study? Are you progressing spiritually?
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  My reinstatment letter is in

  by nonamegiven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, sunday after the public talk i turned in my letter to be let back in the club.

  i changed it a little bit from what you saw in my post a while back.

  i added some info to let them know that i do attend meetings while on the road for work.

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  I wish you the best. I hope this helps you stay connected to your family.

  Good luck
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  Did you stop singing the songs BEFORE you stopped going to meetings?

  by zack in

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  after i found out the truth abouth the troof, i could not--- i mean physically could not---- sing a note of a jw song at a meeting.. this was way before i decided to make a plan and a final break.

  this happen to anyone?.

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  I lip synched. Sometimes I would just stand there and not lip synch.
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  Pressure to conform from his wife's congregation; Part 2

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  this is what was said in part 1 of this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/125918/1.ashx.

  so this guy i see occasionally at work (he's a traveling .

  representative and passes thru now and then) is really easy.

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  TheListener

  I think you've done a fantastic job.

  Keep up the good work.

  You fulfill an important part of his life right now - unconditional listening. Plus you have the right life experience to give suggestions.

  I really wonder what the wife thought about Crisis of Conscience. The information she read will stick with her for a long long time and hopefully the seed will germinate.
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  Uhhhhh, may have done something stupid...not sure...

  by mama1119 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, so my best friend calls this morning.

  she has left the borg, but the rest of her family hasn't.

  she was invited over to her moms house last night for dinner and her grandparents were suppossed to be there.

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  TheListener

  Hey, I have some relatives you could call.

  That was a nice way to stick up for your friend - good for you.