Posts by Jez

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Do you ever think that you will stop JW-bashing and get on with your life?

by booker-t in

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i was recently talking to a girl in my psychology class who told me that she use to be a jw and was df'd in the mid 1990's.

this girl shocked me because usually ex-jws are so unhappy and miserable and spend most of their time complaining about the "evil" wt society.

she told me that when she was df'd alot of ex-jws swarmed towards her trying to get her to "bash" the wt but she refused.

Jez

The organization has succeeded for years in keeping df'ed ones quiet and not discuss our experiences. They have also succeeded in not letting people discuss: doubts, questions, research things using sources other than the WT publications, or find evidence for 'rumors'. The WT must now step up and search for a way to allow members to have freedom of speech, freedom of information and freedom to leave if they choose to. The internet will eventually demand it of them.

The internet allows us to share experiences, realize that we are not alone (the WT wants us to think that we are all alone in the world), and eventually heal.

Jez

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I was thinking of forbidding my wife from taking the kids out in service

by Check_Your_Premises in

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it is summer time.

the kids are out of school next week.

my wife is a newly dunked dub, who goes out in service on thursdays.

Jez

My 15 year old daughter refuses to see her dad because JW religion is crammed down her throat. My 10 year old is now facing the same thing...she loves him...but she is refusing to see him because religion is crammed down her throat.

They don't want to be subjected anymore to his talk to death, Armageddon, making Satan happy and God sad if they celebrate the holidays, more death, more verbal spankings, more 'end of the world', 'your mother will die at Armageddon', we are right and everyone else is wrong, "worldly" people must be avoided because they are evil, Jehovahs way is the only way, meetings that do nothing to reach their tender hearts, superior attitudes, etc etc etc

Let me tell you....my ex husband would like nothing better than to take my kids away from me for good and raise them as JWs. That is all that is on his mind. Not HOW they turn out, what they are like now, their heart condition, what they do for sports, school, etc. while these things may take on some importance, they take second place to 'saving their lives'. My ex will stop at nothing to try to force her, through intense preaching, at her to become a JW. He talks to her about her getting baptized all the time as well. If he can get my oldest on the phone for a few mins, he does not ask about HER, he preaches at her. "The end is CLOSE, whether you accept it or not" "YOU made a promise to Jehovah!"

All things aside, (who is right and who is wrong) this is NOT healthy for children. Period. It causes alot of trouble for some kids, like my oldest, who is a very intense child to begin with. Her pain all goes inside and stays there. Some kids view it as a rejection. My youngest thinks that if she is not a JW, he will reject her and shun her someday. Her tactic right now, is to avoid him. I just keep telling her that he does love her, I don't want to see her pain. I have wrote him a letter begging him to back off of religion because it is ruining his relationship with her, but he does not listen, he knows best, I am "scummy dross." Sometimes, the best thing is limited association with a JW parent if they are fanatical and you can do it, until they get old enough to stand up for themselves about what they will and will not accept in a relationship. Counter teachings of death with teachings of life, hate with love, outward appearances with the inner person, superiority with understanding, judgement with compassion.

Jez

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I laughed, I cried...most incredible site on the internet

by Xander in

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a lot of interesting cards, here.. some are funny, some a cute, some are....really, really sad.

too many hit too close to home, but...well, just check it out.

an impressive collection!

Jez

I don't see a link. ??

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Have you ever tried explaining judicial committee to a non-witness?

by TooOpinionated in

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i have, and i honestly don't seem to be getting the repercussions across.

my parents and siblings are not witnesses, so when i told them about the jc letter arriving, they just shrug their shoulders and say "so what?

have you ever had that experience?

Jez

My 'worldly' husband came to my JC with me. I said that I would not meet with them unless I had him there as support. He was allowed, but not allowed to say anything. He sat there and fumed. He DID speak. He asked them how they could want to df me and not the man that abused me. They ignored him and said to me that if I left him (my husband, b/f at the time) they would not df me. My b/f did not know what the hell was going on and could not wait to get out of there. He said it was one of the most bizzare experiences of his life. Listening to men judge me when he has been taught that only God has that right.

Jez

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The hurt will never stop

by Jez in

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my little sister (not a jw) forwarded me some pictures of my brothers 2 kids (jw and fanatically shuns me).

i would not have recognized them on the street.

just when you think you can't hurt anymore...something is always thrown in your face.

Jez

My little sister (not a JW) forwarded me some pictures of my brothers 2 kids (JW and fanatically shuns me). I would not have recognized them on the street. Just when you think you can't hurt anymore...something is always thrown in your face.

It makes me feel as if he has to protect his children from me. Like I am some sick f**k ie: pedophile, kidnapper, murderer. When all I would ever do is love them.

Yup, they certainly know how to emulate Jesus' personality. What right do they have to judge others so severely? And they say there is no hell, they (shunners) MAKE hell on earth everyday for us.

Jez

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Why do the English make fun of 'gingers'??

by Jez in

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were orange haired people thought to be from some tainted lineage?

just curious jez

Jez

Is there any history/reasoning behind this? Were orange haired people thought to be from some tainted lineage?

Just curious Jez

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I miss my mother...

by mrsjones5 in

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my crazy mother who is not talking to any of her kids because she is now playing the role of victum even though she is the one who created the mess.. josie

Jez

So sorry Lyineyes. I have moved on as well from my mother and do not miss her judgemental "God sees everything you know" attitude. All she talks about is how bad the world is. Nope, I am done and I just tell myself, "It was not me that made this decision, it was her." You know, basically what they say about us.

Jez

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Young JWs-living a lie

by Jez in

for the past year, i have been observing the jw kids that i know.

i am in a unique situation as i work at the local high school, therefore see many of them on a daily basis.

let me tell you, 80% of them are totally undistinguishable as jws.

Jez

Right on Nina and Terry, very insightful.

Try not to judge these kids too harshly. They are just trying to survive in a tottally unhealthy environment.

Yes, I won't judge them harshly. It just drives me crazy. I have thought alot about growing up a witness teen and I can honestly say that once we were out of that KH, I never gave hardly a second thought to my religion. I acted like any other kid. It is like this irritating poke in the ribs every so often, but easily ignored. I think that I, many of you, and the kids I see at school are the majority nowadays. If it is not in your heart, you won't let it influence your daily life. JW are notorious for not being able to teach the heart and only fine-tuning the "outward appearance." This will bite them in the ass someday.

Jez

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I miss my mother...

by mrsjones5 in

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my crazy mother who is not talking to any of her kids because she is now playing the role of victum even though she is the one who created the mess.. josie

Jez

Here is a poem I wrote to my mother:

HOW CAN YOU?How can someone raise and then not?
How can someone's blood run through another yet not?
How can someone say they love another, and yet not show it ever?
How can someone say that they will be there, yet never are?
How can someone assume that they are not needed for eternity?
How can someone say they listen yet always talk?
How can they act like God approves of shunning their own flesh and blood?
How can they love strangers more than their own?
How can they treat others with love, yet their own with anger and apathy?
Where do they find endless patience for strangers, yet not an ounce of understanding for what is theirs?
Why would they side with hurt and danger, and not with true love and safety?
Why do they act like they do not feel?
How do they feel when they do not act?
How do they feel when they are needed, yet refuse?
How do they sleep at night?
How does one bury a natural instinct?
How do they stop it from welling up and exploding?
Where do thoughts of the past go?
How do you not ache for what should run so deep?
What is their life about if not about pure love of what you brought here?
How can you shut the door when not one of your very own could shut the door on you, ever?
How can you judge when not one of yours could eternally judge you?
Why are you angry when we are the innocent ones?
Why don't you know better?
Why don't you learn?
Why are you the only one that has the right to try again?
Why are you always right, and others always wrong?
How can we be misguided and the one that should have guided, claims they have guidance?
Why did you not impart guidance?
Where are you?
Why do you want to be alone in this world?
Why are we never worthy of your expectations?
What must we do?
What could we do?
Why even try?
How could you call yourself a mother?

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Having a hard time with family

by Dustin in

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i have no family ties.

family ties can be broken.

Jez

The older I get and the more experience I have with all of this, the more I realize that being a member of my family in itself is not enough. Family+Mutual Friendship+Mutual Respect+Mutual Love

Don't focus on the negative, focus on WHO do you have in your life that truly is your family? Even Non-JW familes become estranged for all sorts of bizarre reasons.

You are never alone Jez