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Can you be disfellowshiped for reading other religious materials?
by paradisebeauty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i am having a conversation with a jw and they say you can not be disfellowshiped for this.

is this true?

i thought you can be disfellowshiped for this.
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Jw's go to the door of a biblical scholar to preach the Bible.
by paradisebeauty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this is interesting, jw's go to the door of a biblical scholar, a professor in theology i believe, and he invites them in and records the whole conversation.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xpo43bgdbm.
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Article about the watchtower doctrine about Jesus over time:
by paradisebeauty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i found this article on the wt changing doctrine about jesus.

it is probably written by an ex jw since there are quotes from old publications.

http://thehumanjesus.org/?p=2410.
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Even the Overlapping Generations isn't an original concept
by paradisebeauty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
to my surprise, i found this: .

the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.

if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....
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Some amazing insights on why the the name Jehovah is no more used in the new testament scriptures
by paradisebeauty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i read this blog post by a person i have no idea if she is still a jw or not, but it made me think and gain some new perspective on using the divine name.

please read it if you can, it will change your view!

and it totally devalidates the jw dogma that they are the only ones using god's name, no, they are actually orphans.
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Message from an elder
by paradisebeauty in
1. jw
2. experiences
elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .

elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.

me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.
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Where did they understood the anointed ones would be before the "great crowd" "revelation"?
by paradisebeauty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this is a question on old doctrine of jw's.

before they came up with the "great crowd" "revelation", where did they preached that the anointed ones will be?

because if they preached it will be in heaven, how did they understood that the prophecies about the earth will be fulfilled?
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Uk most sadistic woman a JW???
by paradisebeauty in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
i found this article, about a woman who had foster kids and she tortured and abused them, the article says she was a jw.

she was in jail for 12 years, now she is released .... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2993067/made-sleep-barn-eat-vomit-suffer-vicious-beatings-uk-s-sadistic-mother-never-let-jail-three-children-abused.html.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3233100/those-evil-eyes-never-change-victims-britain-s-sadistic-mother-speak-fury-torturer-seen-shopping-following-early-release-prison.html.
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Just lost one more friend
by paradisebeauty in
1. jw
2. experiences
i used to talk weekly on skype, with a sister from another country.

i didn't tell her much about my research and change of beliefs, until today ... in the conversations some doctrines came up and i told her i don't believe 1914, first, then i went on to tell her that i also don't believe there are 2 classes of christians, that i did not believe the government of the kingdom will be in heaven while the kingdom en earth, that i believe the whole kingdom will be on earth, and that from what i read, jesus was pretty clear that he will come back to earth, visibly.

the "god always had an organization" dogma was dropped and i told her it is not true, out of 9000 years of human history, it's not sure there were 1000 years when god had a loyal organization ..... i did not plan to tell her all this things, but it just happened, and things came up in the conversation... and once i dropped one bomb i dropped them all .... she said i do not sound like i am one of the jehovah's witnesses any more ... and even though we ended the call with "see ya" i have the feeling i will not hear from her any more ... .
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The origins of the idea that Jesus was an angel
by paradisebeauty in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i subbled upon this very interesting article on the origins of the idea that jesus was an angel.

http://lhim.org/blog/2010/08/07/jesus-was-not-the-agent-of-the-genesis-creation/.

the begining od the article:.