Welcome!
I cannot imagine what it must be like to pretend like you are still in.
I think I could do it, but the pain, though.
Glad the two of you are Awake! together.
i just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).
i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.
my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.
Welcome!
I cannot imagine what it must be like to pretend like you are still in.
I think I could do it, but the pain, though.
Glad the two of you are Awake! together.
the first step to fading is to begin missing the meetings.. "if" anyone misses you, a quality excuse must be at the ready.
this will produce empathy toward you as opposed to suspicion.. 1. car problems ( don't mention that you caused them ).
2. stuck on the phone resolving insurance, billing, etc issues.. 3. sick ( of the meetings ).
These comments are great.
The replies I have received on this site have greatly helped me to be confident to march right on out of the ORG.
Thank You!!
i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.
( "reaching out", so to speak ).
i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.
Any lurkers out there?
I'm at a new spot right now in my confidence apart from the cult.
For my wife's sake I will not reveal myself or become a visible activist.
I will, however, walk without concern for what active JWs think of me.
I do not recognize any JW authority anymore!!
I have VERY high self esteem and actually may enjoy punching an elder in the mouth if he repeatedly asks me too `
if you are willing to pay attention to the org's history and do any kind of unbiased personal research, it's impossible to miss ttatt.. watchtower's publication archive provides all the information anyone would ever need.where are all of the "half truths and outright lies" actually coming from?
( old light ).
why, oh why, back in 1989 when i first got hooked did i not do any research into the watchtower corporation?.
Here's where mind control is used:
Jws are made to "want" to go along with the new teachings/doctrines/TV channel/GB worship,etc because if you don't, you too can be labeled an "APOSTATE".
How's that?
the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.
There really need to be secretly recorded conversations with GB members made public.
That would get the ball rolling, wouldn't it?
arguing with my husband again, i asked where is the proof that jesus looked down on earth in 1919 and chose a small group of bible students in america apart from them saying it in their magazines.
also where is the proof that satan and his demons were cast down in 1914 just because first world war started.
neither of these things are in the bible only in their magazines.
I have spouted off to my wife, something along the line of:
"Prove it's 'the Truth' and I will come back to the meetings".
So far nothing...
I thought they were supposed to make a defense for the faith?
the neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.
i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.
when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.
I think you did what any kind and loving authority figure should have done.
( No sin here. Move along )
all witnesses are ministers.
from the time a witness is baptized, they are considered ministers.
this religion is getting more ridiculous each passing day.
If a 5 year old "qualifies" for baptism, what's that say about the adults that join in?
so terrible
what would have happen if i was not home when jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door?.
there was a group of us living in a small trailer in the mid 60s when and old pioneer brother knocked on our door and placed all kinds of books and magazines with us.
all of us took it seriously and studied and started attending the kingdom hall.
I have often wondered what would have become of me if I had rejected the "truth".
I always liked to brag how "the truth" saved my life. As if I was leading some sort of tragic life heading for death. That was not the case.
Now I'm catching up with all of my old interests and hoping I have enough time left.
hey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.
status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.
I feel like I'm reading my own life story as I read some of the personal experiences.
I met with ONE elder and said: "I no longer want to be a MS and I do not want to talk about it with anyone."
They bought that.
I later found the door and faded fast and deliberately.
ps, choose you elder wisely. The one I selected had been "out" for 6 years himself preveiously, so he knew the feeling on a similar level.