o m g...(yes that is a very childish reaction...but i couldn't think of a more appropriate expression!).
if you haven't yet read it...please do so..... it is so ridiculous!
so leading, so distorted, and full of "bait and switch" techniques.. "prove you have the truth"..by seeing how neutral witnesses were in war times?
my mom told me yesterday, 'you need to read this weeks study article, its shows us how to know if we have the truth.'
and so I GUESS I better humor her, and have a laugh myself, better arm myself with two highlighters, and a note book, and some tylenol...
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hmm, so they had insider info way back then that wireless technology was on its way. secret society non the less..
on the basis that most of us realise the w.t wasnt really the best " job" or way to spend our days, it would be fun to find out what people would really have liked to have done with there lifes and if this is still possible.
or maybe its not even a very realistic ambition just a dream.
in my dreams i stay at home all day and make a living from being a professional artist.maybe i need a phycholgist?.
i always thought it would be fun to produce a ice scating show
i just discovered that the circuit assembly my family is attending tomorrow contains a symposium entitled:.
help others to seek jehovah's righteousness: those who have become inactive.
i poked around a bit on here and didn't find any comments about this.
oh damn, my mom is going to that tomorrow, after she said to me on the phone last night
'you have really sunk to the bottom not believing in genesis'
thanks for the warning.
tell them this:.
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lol, then within one generation the wt will cease to exsist, because the members will all make minimum wage and have no money for service kingdom hall donations, and if none of them get married, then they will have no children.
no doubt you have heard about the nurse that thumbed her nose to the state and went out of the house in spite of being ordered to stay at home.
what is your opinion on this?.
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shes after attention, in no way is staying home for a week or so going to kill her and it would make people rest easy
but here is an interesting take on that,
on cracked.com they have an article entitled 4 types of ebola panic that are secretly racsist.
id paste the link but dont know how to do that on this site.
ask a witness what seems like a simple bible question: "nine verses in the bible tell us that jesus is going to judge the living and the dead.
(john 5:28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.
5:10, 2 tim.
I ve read a logical explanation a while ago that said the 'living' were those of the house of israel,
or Gods chosen people, and the dead are everyone else.
perhaps 'dead' in works or the deeds.
good question, but hey jw arent allowed to question, because not too many have an answer to give, they have trouble defending thier beliefs.
I ask why the apostle paul never spoke about a future faithfull slave that christ was going to choose to be his mediator. or the 144,000.
the bible has many many contadictions because its wasnt a first hand account of anything, there were no litteral witnesses who wrote things down as they happened. it was stories handed down then written down. matthew mark luke and john all have contradictions, and yet some scriptures are exactly the same scritpure, showing that someone was copying word for word another account.
let's say he began ruling in 1914.. where is that rulership?.
i'm hoping this line of thought gets someone thinking.. .
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i read this last night and was amazed that i did not see it before this is just some of it the link for the whole article is over at jwfacts on the subject of faithful and descreet slave
[apparently he hasnt come yet, according to the wt, becasue they are still doing memorial, which was to cease when he came.]
but this was the most interesting parts to me.
One must wonder, if God truly appointed the Governing Body to dispense truth since 1919, why it took them 93 years to dispense the truth about this doctrine.
What is remarkable about this teaching is that in 1981 the Watchtower described this very concept, that only the leaders represent the Slave class, as deceptive and from objectors; in other words, it was an apostate teaching.
"Witnesses of Jehovah understand that the "slave" is comprised of all anointed Christians as a group on earth at any given time during the 19 centuries since Pentecost. Accordingly, the "domestics" are these followers of Christ as individuals.
Some readers may feel that this is a rather sectarian view of matters. Or they may object to the idea that the "slave" and the "domestics" represent the same class, one as a composite body and the other as individuals. The objectors may argue that not all of Christ's anointed disciples have a share in preparing the spiritual food, so that perhaps the "slave" pictures only the leading ones, and the "domestics" those they serve in the congregation.
There is no point in trying to force an interpretation of the parable. Self-deception is of no benefit and is spiritually damaging. Therefore, we must look to the Scriptures for an understanding. In doing this, what do we find?
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Thus we see a clear Scriptural basis for saying that all anointed followers of Christ Jesus make up God's "servant," with Jesus as its Master." Watchtower 1981 Mar 1 pp.24-26
Consequences
The Watchtower claims the Slave has been given all authority.
"The facts of modern history show that in the year 1919 [Jesus] revived these much afflicted disciples and gathered them together in a united body. Then he appointed them as his “slave” class “over all his belongings,” that is, over all his royal interests at the earth." Watchtower 1971 Dec 15 p.750
This is not what was intended by the Scriptures. The Bible states that the appointment over all the belongings is made after the master arrives.
Matthew 24:46,47 "Happy is that slave if his master on arriving (erchomai) finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings."
The master has not yet arrived, as the memorial is to cease on his arrival, and so the Slave has not been appointed over all the belongings.
1 Corinthians 11:26 "For as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives (erchomai)."
The leaders have prematurely seized control for themselves, and consolidated that control. The 2012 version of the doctrine leaves Christians uncared for between 33 CE and 1919 CE, and elevates the exclusivity and importance of Governing Body. This is in contrast to the parable, which indicates that at this time the elders are to be shepherds of the congregation.
One would expect that the definition for one of Jehovah's Witnesses to be a person that worships Jehovah. However, the defining concept to being a Jehovah's Witness is not worship of Jehovah, but rather following the "faithful and discreet slave." In a judicial committee, the foremost question is not whether a Witness believes the Bible or worships Jehovah, but whether they believe God is using the Watchtower Faithful and Discreet Slave in our day. If a person believes in the Bible and Jehovah, they will still be disfellowshipped as an apostate if they openly confess that the Watchtower leaders do not represent Jehovah's slave.
The Governing Body has managed to deflect attention from Jesus by means of their doctrine that Jesus is mediator for the Slave class alone, and that salvation can only be achieved through association with the Slave.
"He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members. " Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" (1986) pp.10-11
"Jesus knew that he was going to purchase these anointed ones with his own blood, so he fittingly referred to them collectively as his slave." Watchtower 1993 May 1 p.16
could some one help me find that video someone posted.
the video was a teacher showing how the book of mark was translated.
i watched the whole thing.
geeze, that sounds great, let me know too! my mom age 72 thinks the whole governing body has degrees in biblical studies.
funny though she fails to realize, even if they did, they would have to go to a 'worldy' college to get those! and she thinks nothing, absolutely nothing
outside what the society says is right! you cant even mention a single article in any magazine or book or web site that I read becasue she says its all propaganda! lol oh how that makes me want to l.o.l !
shes a real pain to get sucked into a debate with, but she draws me in every time.
after i get off the phone with her I feel like someone just pulled me out of a boxing ring.
shes too old for me to bother trying to undoctrinize. shed have nothing to do on the weekends accept bug me.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.
(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).
thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.
it really puzzles me , that of all the things the society changes in doctrinal teachings, why would it be so difficult to keep out of affairs of personal natures such as these and people simply call the law and deal with these crimes like everyone else does?
they know how much its costing them, they know its wrong, so what the hay?
I cant wraap my head aroung the logic of not being willing to give people personal responsibility for thier own lives and staying out of it.
they would have so many more followers IF they were simpy honest and nice about things!
well you know the old saying, pride before a fall....
