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  Has anyone seen the Anonoymous You Tube Videos?

  by wwjdnwt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know much about them or their group .

  i came across them a few days ago.

  they or he is masked and call out groups on different issues.

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  WTLeaks? Is that the one you are talking about? So many witnesses download the answers to questions that are sometimes added to the mid week Ministry document provided only to active Jehovah's Witnesses. My sister does, my niece does, my study conductors got it from their son who is an elder; to my amazement. That is when I became a bit suspicious.

  I think this is the one with the warning from " Anonymous". Not much ever came from the so called data base they claimed to have accessed. At one point I managed to "accidentally" read the script running behind the actual screen. Just a lot of talk about types of Hyper Text Transfer Protocols...http..... and such. My husband used to program in different languages in the late eighties up to 2000. He would have sourced whether this group were legitimate.....He died in early 2000.
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  Crisis of Conscience

  by FreeGirl2006 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  do you think that any of the clueless, amnesiacs that appeared before the rc will have a crisis of conscience over the abuse situation?

  seriously, with the grilling they received from our new heroes, they would have to be sociopaths not to do some long hard thinking about the lack of empathy and compassion the borg displays as a top down policy towards abuse victims.

  i can understand these idiots not having an awakening within the confines of their daily lives since they stay cloistered in their belief system, but the rc forced them into the real world with their questions and one would hope, made them think.

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  dubstepped. That was a good one wasn't it. I had not thought about this line of questioning at all. I was too intent upon the WT within. When the questioning led this elder to the logical conclusion that they were in effect endangering not only their own children but the children of other people "worldly children at that". It was a terrific moment.
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  Extremely difficult situation the .Org is in

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as far as i can imagine, the .org is in a lose, lose, lose situation right now.

  if jackson shows to the rc, and policy chages, then bible interpretation was changed sans-holy spirit.

  policy change is an admission of guilt, not helpful in future civil court cases.

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  Australia is a small part of the WT, but a big part of the Australasian WT. The broadcasts that take place from here go throughout the Asian regions including New Zealand, this is why there is a Bethel here.

  Now as to distorting the actions of the RC, I have seen attempts to discredit it on the JW friendly sites. However, even these attempts are lacking in substance. The transcripts are public, the hearings went to Utube via people like Barbara Anderson and some others.

  Surely, this will be incontrovertible proof of what took place, word for word. No matter what the hard line JWs will say, this is not something they can reasonably take down or discredit to some of those who will be asking the hard questions. I was a still a little "in" if you like, but after watching day after day.......seeing and hearing lies........I could no longer support this religion. No. I could not lie to myself anymore. That was a shock in a way.
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  The cruelty of shunning now being exposed rc

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  let justice roll forth.

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  Steve2 and Sabin, Often when something is put in parenthesis like this " the loving provision of shunning". It implies (often) that the statement is a pejorative statement. Which means it is critical, satirical, condemning and so forth.

  This is why some people state a point of view using such "....." in closing their statement. It's a means of conveying and clarification to the reader.....

  Sorry, old English Teacher in me coming out.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  Astounding material isn't it. These are all being systematically looked into, I'm happy to announce.
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  Neither writers nor translators believe Scriptures are inspired of God

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in most of the scriptures, the supreme father figure is originally presented as upholder of the law that every action has equal and opposite reaction.

  later writers would come presenting a son of god who would exhibit a soft approach towards consequences of action.

  one of the best examples is john 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the bible..

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  iconoclastic

  john 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the Bible.

  I have just looked those scriptures up in one of the older NW Translations of the WT Bible
  

  Revised in 1971. Those scriptures are not in it. Interesting that they may have had a better bible back then, than now. Got it open right infront of me right now.

  The scriptures in this old bible go from John 7:52 with no 53rd verse and recomences at John 8:12. There is a footnote at the bottom explaining those scriptures you mentioned though.....as being omitted by some manuscripts and with some variations in Greek texts. Ummm interesting.

  Which bible/s do have those scriptures, do you know? Interesting comment. Now I have to look up my other bibles......Thanks
  
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  Neither writers nor translators believe Scriptures are inspired of God

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in most of the scriptures, the supreme father figure is originally presented as upholder of the law that every action has equal and opposite reaction.

  later writers would come presenting a son of god who would exhibit a soft approach towards consequences of action.

  one of the best examples is john 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the bible..

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  John 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the Bible.

  Truly? Excuse my ignorance but can you lead me to the evidence for this. I do believe you, so don't get me wrong. It's just that sometimes I don't know where to research all the things I am made aware of.

  I really would like to know this. I am beginning to really wonder about the accuracy of the bible these days.
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  A Limerick for Geoffrey

  by JustVisting in

  1. social
  2. humour

  there once was a man from down under,who's speech was thought of like thunder,.

  but when pops came dow ill,.

  geoff flew in with a pill.

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  nancy drew

  Secret Slave Class

  doof daddy

  Splash

  Wasanelderonce...

  Love this stuff...punkofnice........good one .............shame you really really really couldn't think of that rhyming word. Want me to help you?

  I love limericks, and of you Irish by any chance? You have to have some of that Irish blood in there somewhere. Please dream up some more...........I love this stuff.
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  Friday 7 August 2015 - Regional Conventions of Jehovah's Witnesses start today in Australia

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the first round of the "imitate jesus" regional convention series has begun in australia.. australia: dates and locations.

  download program.

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  Yes folks, the commission has it's ways and I ask you to trust them. They were more disturbed by the things they found out than you or I were led to believe. They had over 300 people manning phones during that RC and they still have that number operating right now.

  Funds will continue to support the commission as laid out by Julia Gillard labour govt and our new Prime Minister Tony Abbot the liberal leader.

  Good work being done. No contact ignored as long as a person is willing to give contact details to them. If not, then they will assume it's not (potentially) worth pursuing.

  The thing is, over 1,700 did give contact details. Now this really poses a problem for WTBTS doesn't it.?
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  Click on the reddit post and up comes the list of those who I believe have called in. It too large a document for me to upload.....It says 1,700...........have a look then save it.