Posts by umbertoecho

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Crisis of Conscience

by FreeGirl2006 in

do you think that any of the clueless, amnesiacs that appeared before the rc will have a crisis of conscience over the abuse situation?

seriously, with the grilling they received from our new heroes, they would have to be sociopaths not to do some long hard thinking about the lack of empathy and compassion the borg displays as a top down policy towards abuse victims.

i can understand these idiots not having an awakening within the confines of their daily lives since they stay cloistered in their belief system, but the rc forced them into the real world with their questions and one would hope, made them think.

umbertoecho

dubstepped. That was a good one wasn't it. I had not thought about this line of questioning at all. I was too intent upon the WT within. When the questioning led this elder to the logical conclusion that they were in effect endangering not only their own children but the children of other people "worldly children at that". It was a terrific moment.

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Extremely difficult situation the .Org is in

by Lemonp in

as far as i can imagine, the .org is in a lose, lose, lose situation right now.

if jackson shows to the rc, and policy chages, then bible interpretation was changed sans-holy spirit.

policy change is an admission of guilt, not helpful in future civil court cases.

umbertoecho

Australia is a small part of the WT, but a big part of the Australasian WT. The broadcasts that take place from here go throughout the Asian regions including New Zealand, this is why there is a Bethel here.

Now as to distorting the actions of the RC, I have seen attempts to discredit it on the JW friendly sites. However, even these attempts are lacking in substance. The transcripts are public, the hearings went to Utube via people like Barbara Anderson and some others.

Surely, this will be incontrovertible proof of what took place, word for word. No matter what the hard line JWs will say, this is not something they can reasonably take down or discredit to some of those who will be asking the hard questions. I was a still a little "in" if you like, but after watching day after day.......seeing and hearing lies........I could no longer support this religion. No. I could not lie to myself anymore. That was a shock in a way.

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The cruelty of shunning now being exposed rc

by poopie in

jw
friends

let justice roll forth.

umbertoecho

Steve2 and Sabin, Often when something is put in parenthesis like this " the loving provision of shunning". It implies (often) that the statement is a pejorative statement. Which means it is critical, satirical, condemning and so forth.

This is why some people state a point of view using such "....." in closing their statement. It's a means of conveying and clarification to the reader.....

Sorry, old English Teacher in me coming out.

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Huge list of victims

by umbertoecho in

https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

i pressed all the wrong buttons.

here it is, posted about an hour ago..

umbertoecho

Astounding material isn't it. These are all being systematically looked into, I'm happy to announce.

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Neither writers nor translators believe Scriptures are inspired of God

by iconoclastic in

in most of the scriptures, the supreme father figure is originally presented as upholder of the law that every action has equal and opposite reaction.

later writers would come presenting a son of god who would exhibit a soft approach towards consequences of action.

one of the best examples is john 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the bible..

umbertoecho

iconoclastic

john 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the Bible.

I have just looked those scriptures up in one of the older NW Translations of the WT Bible

Revised in 1971. Those scriptures are not in it. Interesting that they may have had a better bible back then, than now. Got it open right infront of me right now.

The scriptures in this old bible go from John 7:52 with no 53rd verse and recomences at John 8:12. There is a footnote at the bottom explaining those scriptures you mentioned though.....as being omitted by some manuscripts and with some variations in Greek texts. Ummm interesting.

Which bible/s do have those scriptures, do you know? Interesting comment. Now I have to look up my other bibles......Thanks

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Neither writers nor translators believe Scriptures are inspired of God

by iconoclastic in

in most of the scriptures, the supreme father figure is originally presented as upholder of the law that every action has equal and opposite reaction.

later writers would come presenting a son of god who would exhibit a soft approach towards consequences of action.

one of the best examples is john 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the bible..

umbertoecho

John 7:53 to 8:11 which is now accepted as one of the most famous forgeries in the Bible.

Truly? Excuse my ignorance but can you lead me to the evidence for this. I do believe you, so don't get me wrong. It's just that sometimes I don't know where to research all the things I am made aware of.

I really would like to know this. I am beginning to really wonder about the accuracy of the bible these days.

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A Limerick for Geoffrey

by JustVisting in

there once was a man from down under,who's speech was thought of like thunder,.

but when pops came dow ill,.

geoff flew in with a pill.

umbertoecho

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nancy drew

Secret Slave Class

doof daddy

Splash

Wasanelderonce...

Love this stuff...punkofnice........good one .............shame you really really really couldn't think of that rhyming word. Want me to help you?

I love limericks, and of you Irish by any chance? You have to have some of that Irish blood in there somewhere. Please dream up some more...........I love this stuff.

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Friday 7 August 2015 - Regional Conventions of Jehovah's Witnesses start today in Australia

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

the first round of the "imitate jesus" regional convention series has begun in australia.. australia: dates and locations.

download program.

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umbertoecho

Yes folks, the commission has it's ways and I ask you to trust them. They were more disturbed by the things they found out than you or I were led to believe. They had over 300 people manning phones during that RC and they still have that number operating right now.

Funds will continue to support the commission as laid out by Julia Gillard labour govt and our new Prime Minister Tony Abbot the liberal leader.

Good work being done. No contact ignored as long as a person is willing to give contact details to them. If not, then they will assume it's not (potentially) worth pursuing.

The thing is, over 1,700 did give contact details. Now this really poses a problem for WTBTS doesn't it.?

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Huge list of victims

by umbertoecho in

https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

i pressed all the wrong buttons.

here it is, posted about an hour ago..

umbertoecho

Click on the reddit post and up comes the list of those who I believe have called in. It too large a document for me to upload.....It says 1,700...........have a look then save it.

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Im curious. What kind of lifestyle the GB live?

by SecretSlaveClass in

anyone ever seen pictures or the actual houses and cars the gb own?

im wondering if the live a middle class lifestyle or more like high society?

umbertoecho

Just go to Ministry Cars...............then you will see the cars they no longer think fit for their precious backsides..........Go have a bloody look at them....these are the ones they sell after those servants of ............who knows what anymore, will no longer suffer to drive in them.