a wind of change (page 8)

Billygoat

I don't know all the details to the board politics here. Nor do I want to. But I will say one thing...with some fear of being deleted myself...that there have been many times where I refuse to get into a thread when I see Simon is a part of it. Especially if it is a political or other controversial thread. I do believe Simon has changed over the several years I've been here. He doesn't seem as compassionate or kind as he once was. He seems to have lost his sense of humor quite a bit. I find his posts about America rather blind and offensive at times, but everyone is allowed their opinion, right? Or am I wrong?

I don't enjoy this board as much as I once did, but perhaps it's because I've grown a lot in real life and don't need this board like I once did. Perhaps it's because sometimes it reminds me of being at a Kingdom Hall with an ego-centric Presiding Overseer that doesn't feel rules pertain to him. I don't know. It's just my perception. If it's wrong, then I'll gladly listen to another perspective if it's given in a kind and balanced manner.

This board has changed a lot over the last several years. And I don't believe it's necessarily in a good way. I miss the good ol' days.

Just my two cents,

Andi

Brummie

By the way, I have a Honours Degree in English won at a prestigious UK university,

I didnt realise you could get a degree in knitting...well done

Brummie BA, BSC, MA...

hillary_step

Brummie,

Brummie BA, BSC, MA...

You missed one out - BA, BSC, MA, ANUS.

HS

Brummie

and how may of those have you knitted in since you got your degree?

The Leological One

Hi,

I'm only posting in this thread because it's been dragging on (and I don't feel I'm really bumping it back to the top much here~), and I'm hoping it'll just die off soon.

Anyway, feeling I'm coming from a very neutral standpoint -- one where I don't know much of the underlying issues going on as well as one where I don't have anything at all to gain by posting -- I'd just like to say I've gotten a lot of good out of this forum even though I am currently not nor have ever been a JW but am married to a great DF'd wife.

As with a number of other forums I've frequented, there is usually at least one section/subdivision within a forum where people usually have more intense and/or off-the-wall topics going on. But even though these types of things are the norm in a lot of forums, I've never seen one where people never got banned or there weren't at least some types of rules in place. I've seen what I felt were very good and deserved bannings, such as people giving out addresses and phone numbers to meet up with other people to actually fight in person, some hardcore white supremecists spouting a bunch of deep-seated hate material, posting hardcore porn, etc.. And I've seen people get banned for reasons I couldn't understand and/or agree with -- and I've always hated those instances (but at least most of the time saw those people get reinstated on the forum). I've seen threads and posts I don't like and that can seem pretty lame from my standpiont, but the majority don't fall in that category, at least not in my experience, anyway.

The point I'm trying to make is that no forum is perfect because no person is perfect and forums are made up of imperfect, even though likely awesome people. I see a lot of great things on this forum and really like the posts of most of the people I've seen in this thread, and I hope everyone else can see the many good things the forum has done and can do for people, like new people posting almost every day (and my wife just starting to post last night! ), and I see a lot of encouragement and people being genuine and sharing a lot of deep things and experiences. That's a lot of great things for one medium of communication~! I just know that when I start focusing on too much negativity that it seems to make everything seem negative, and I think it can get that way for others, too. Sometimes I've found myself needing a short break from another forum I post at often, but usually I feel a lot better about the forum after a little break~!

Hope my post is good in any way, and I apologize if I'm really missing something and come off in some strange way due to my ignorance of some things around here.

Peace to all~!

donkey

Whenever posters have to qualify their posts with similar phrases to "at the risk of being deleted" then rest assured they are not being honest because they feel fear reprisal of sorts.

Billygoat,

I do believe Simon has changed over the several years I've been here. He doesn't seem as compassionate or kind as he once was. He seems to have lost his sense of humor quite a bit. I find his posts about America rather blind and offensive at times, but everyone is allowed their opinion, right? Or am I wrong?

There is always reality and perception but mostly perception becomes reality, doesn't it? My perception of Simon is inconsequential to my own happiness so there is no point in posting it. For a while I felt like calling out Simon on my perceptions of partialism and in past times I did so. Whether we perceive Simon acting one way or another it's silly to say anything. If he deletes you for doing so and posting on his board is something important to you then you lose out. If he doesn't delete you but he still feels his view is right it doesn't help you either. In a way its like trying to use logic while arguing with a JW...

I accept that this is Simon's board and that he has rules for our behavior.

I don't enjoy this board as much as I once did, but perhaps it's because I've grown a lot in real life and don't need this board like I once did. Perhaps it's because sometimes it reminds me of being at a Kingdom Hall with an ego-centric Presiding Overseer that doesn't feel rules pertain to him. I don't know. It's just my perception.

I made the conscious decision that I sometimes enjoy reading posts on the board. But I have similar perceptions to you so for long time now I have "walked away" because if I speak out I might say something that would cause Simon to delete me. "Walking away" has been very good for me because now although I am not going to break any of the posted rules of conduct if I do happen to get deleted then "oh well - my life is much more than being typing pixels on a discussion board".

Good luck!
Donkey

gypsywildone

Again Hillary_Step???

No charm school for me, nope.

But let me tell you what the school of hard knocks has taught me. First & foremost, to have a sense of humor. About myself & the world around me. To never take myself too seriously. That it is impolite at best to call other people names, attempt to belittle them, & rain on their parades.

Also, that life is not a pissing contest, that I don't have to have the last word, not to argue with pompous asses & to avoid them. Also, not to tell other people to "shut up" or tell them what to do. Oh yeah, & not to brag about MY degree & education.

Oh, & I was also absent the day they handed out sceptors & inserted sticks into asses. Lighten up dude, you're going to end up having a heart attack. There is LOTS to find humor in, on this board & in life, if that's what you are looking for.

Sunnygal41

Try to maintain a civil conversation. Please.
TimB

Just as a hint, 'Please Keep Off The Grass' or 'Keep Of The Grass' - are these requests or instructions?

Hmmm, HS, despite your English edumucation, you managed to miss the please in Tim's first remark to you? Ah, I forget, there are none so blind as those who CHOOSE not to see.

Wasasis said:

Simon: do you really think this subject is so very simple? Thread about swearing being deleted and "boo hoo"? There is much more to this iceberg.

Yet, Simon, you choose to ignore the fact that many people have brought up the same comments that CJW so calmly and logically enumerated. As for me, I used to feel comfortable on JWD. Sadly, I began to notice that alot of the comfortable feeling seemed to have disappeared lately. At first, I blamed my own attitude, as I've been thru alot in my personal life lately. However, I am beginning to really believe that it is not something exclusive to my own circumstance. It is a general feeling of unhappiness that is coming from long time posters not feeling comfortable to comment freely and it is apparent with the general lacklusterness of the topics, etc. That said, I doubt my post will make a difference, but, I had to say what is in my heart, with the courage of my convictions.

Terri

hillary_step

Gypsy,

You of course assume that I take what that goes on on this board and those who participate on it terribly seriously. I am afraid that I have to disappoint you. I am in no fear of heart attack, because I take this all less seriously than those handing out the advice....lol Maybe I should use these silly emoticons more.

I does always amuse me how quick people are to offer their half-baked moralities to others based on the perception of an on-line personna and a few scattered paragraphs here and there. It is they that are usually asking others to 'chill out', 'get a sense of humor', 'lighten up dude' when in fact *they* are the joke.

Just for the record :

About myself & the world around me. To never take myself too seriously. That it is impolite at best to call other people names, attempt to belittle them, & rain on their parades.

Also, that life is not a pissing contest, that I don't have to have the last word, not to argue with pompous asses & to avoid them.

Can you see any problem in the statements that you made?

HS

stillajwexelder

I spot it HS - they said no name calling but implied you were a po******s a**

So there is contardiction within tow sentences

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