The currently missing 'Titan' submarine. What do you think?

by SydBarrett 65 Replies latest jw friends

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    From what I've read, there is no GPS possible, no radio no tracking. The only contact on a good day is some sort of text message system on some mysterious platform. So if that fails and they get stuck somewhere, perhaps around the wreck all they have is knocking metal on metal for sonar receivers to pick up.

    Horrible.

  • Simon
    Simon
    Story Musgrave taking a risk as part of his profession to spacewalk and fix the Hubble Telescope is not the same as a bored fat multi-millionaire hiring some sherpa's to guide him to the top of Everest and getting everyone killed.

    Yes, there is no discovery involved, it's just someone who wants to buy an achievement.

    Stupid ventures like this should be made illegal. You couldn’t pay me enough money to get into a claustrophobic contraption and go into some death zone!

    They should have to pay a deposit / fee towards potential search and rescue costs.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath
    They should have to pay a deposit / fee towards potential search and rescue costs.They should have to pay a deposit / fee towards potential search and rescue costs.

    i think amateur "sportsmen/women"--here in the UK--should also pay a levy to pay for NHS treatment when they get injured in their sport..also to compensate their employers while they are off sick.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Just hoping for a positive outcome.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    If they didn’t want to spend the money to install good communication, couldn’t they at least tie a long string or something to the vessel just in case?

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    If they cut corners, the risk could go from a tiny possibility to an almost guaranteed disaster. I wonder, if you told the people paying such large dollar amounts that they might not be able to track the sub if it got lost, would they have stepped aboard?

    Surely businesses providing such services have a duty of care to their customers? Ok, so you might be trying to provide an 'exciting' experience, but it can't really be much different in principle to an adventure holiday company, a theme park with 'thrill' rides, etc. The service you provide may have a certain level of risk, but if you know that there is a greater degree of risk which you as a provider could take reasonable steps to mitigate against (but you don't), then surely there is a basis for corporate negligence or manslaughter charges right there? Things like a secondary power and/or propulsion source, or a backup means of communicating with another vessel or the surface, should be the minimum safety for a deep-sea diving vessel such as this.

    This reminds me of the horrific Kursk submarine disaster, but that was a slightly different situation as it was a military vessel and there were multiple faults and failings which led to all 118 crew dying, and the sub lying on the bottom for over a week before rescuers reached it.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    Oh, and surprise surprise - it appears there were safety concerns about the Titan submersible in the past...

    Titanic sub: Safety concerns raised about missing submersible
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65977432

  • SydBarrett
    SydBarrett

    "Things like a secondary power and/or propulsion source, or a backup means of communicating with another vessel or the surface, should be the minimum safety for a deep-sea diving vessel such as this."


    I read that normally on these types of deep sea mini subs subs, the ballast (weights) that allow the vessel to sink to the ocean floor are held in place on the bottom of the sub with electro-magnets, so in the event of power loss, the magnets shut off, the ballast automatically drops and the ship ascends back to the surface. Since they are on the bottom, this works even if you're sitting on the ocean floor. Sounds like a pretty clever way to do things.

    However on the lost sub:
    "the ballast is abandoned construction pipes that are sitting on shelves on the side of the thing, and the way you detach the ballast is you get everybody on-board to lean to one side of the sub and they roll off"

    The problem with this is obvious. If you're sitting flat on the ocean floor with no power, you're not gonna be able to rock the sub side to side to have the ballast roll off. Seems like in addition to all the other questionable design decisions, just learning that this is your method of getting back home would cause any potential passengers to say 'oh hell no'.

  • Bribie
    Bribie
    Can someone get hold of International Rescue. They always pull off these dangerous rescues.
  • markweatherill
    markweatherill
    Come on Elon Musk, surely you can whip up another minisub like the last one, only this time it can be piloted by one of your humanoid robots.

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