Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

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  • LoveUniHateExams

    Another video from Shapiro.

    Apparently, George Floyd's partner has admitted that she recently had to take Floyd to hospital because he was feeling unwell due to his drug habit.

    Plus, the prosecution won't offer Floyd's drug dealer immunity in exchange for him to take the witness stand.

    Interesting …

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    I actually watched the trial the other day when they called the expert use of force witness and one of the teachers of the Minnesota academy on the prosecutors side. All very generic, trying to make it seem that Chauvin should’ve known.

    On cross however, the teacher admitted that they only trained cadets and it was unlikely Chauvin was trained on their newfangled policy, he also admitted the policy was not grounded in real situations. On cross it went something like this: So in your diagram you say to listen to the people surrounding the scene and take all that information in at once, because they are holding cameras, is that person holding a camera? No, he seems to be holding that persons arm? Does he seem to be holding that person back? That is what it looks like. Is it reasonable to conclude that thuis person is there not just to film the scene? That is correct. So they have to take that into account as well, that the crowd may be there to harm the police officer. That is correct.

    Then you see the prosecution get testy with their own witness. Then the defense calls back the prosecutions witness to testify on their behalf. You saw the prosecutor just sink into the deepest hole. If your expert witness is so bad, that the defense asks to testify for them, you have a problem.

    Then a bunch of pictures, does it look like the knee is on the shoulder blades towards the police cruiser. Yes. Does it look like the knee is on the back and the shoulder blades towards the police car. Yes. Does it look like the knee is on Mr. Floyd’s neck. No. Have you ever held a suspect down like this: yes. Is this a common way: Yes. Did they die: no. That’s how you train police officers to deal in these situations: yes.

    Then the EMT: you said he died of asphyxia: yes. Can that be caused by a drug overdose: yes. Fentanyl: yes. methamphetamines: yes. Both: yes. Does Mr. Floyd appear to be able to speak here: yes. Can you tell me what Mr. Floyd appears to say in this video to the EMT right before he was loaded in the ambulance. I can’t make it out. Does it sound like “I ate too much drugs”. Yes.

  • Rocketman123

    Floyd appears to say in this video to the EMT right before he was loaded in the ambulance..

    Bullshit !

    The arrived paramedics took his pulse which there was none and checked his eyes, the paramedic right then said I think he's dead.

    So how could a man in that physical state speak ?

  • FFGhost

    Well, so much for the "died by overdose" defense attempt:

    It was a nice try though. A for effort.

  • LoveUniHateExams

    @FFGhost - Dr Martin Tobin says in your link that Chauvin had his knee pressed down on Floyd's neck but elsewhere in this thread I've posted a youtube video showing photographic evidence that shows Chauvin's knee was across Floyd's shoulders.

    What do you make of this photographic evidence?

    Well, so much for the "died by overdose" defense attempt - the prosecution are alleging murder. In a US court, murder has to be established beyond reasonable doubt.

    There's quite a lot of stuff posted here which is reasonable doubt that Chauvin murdered George Floyd.

  • Rocketman123

    At the time Floyd did have pertaining health issues, some caused by illicit drug use.

    So because of that this possibly aided toward the outcome of the physical arrest to what happened to him..

    A full autopsy report on George Floyd, the man who died after being restrained by Minneapolis police last month, reveals that he was positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The 20-page report also indicates that Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system at the time of his death, although the drugs are not listed as the cause.

    In video taken by bystanders, Floyd, 46, is shown repeatedly pleading that he cannot breathe as he is held down with a knee on his neck by former Minneapolis Police officer Derek Chauvin, with three other officers present. The incident has sparked nationwide — and even worldwide — protests.

    Floyd's death has been ruled a homicide.

    The autopsy report from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office concludes the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." That conclusion, death due to heart failure, differs from the one reached by an independent examiner hired by the Floyd family; that report listed the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."

    This medical examiner's report does not mention asphyxiation. However, according to prosecutors, in charging documents filed last week, early results "revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."

    The medical examiner's report also details blunt-force injuries to the skin of Floyd's head, face and upper lip, as well as the shoulders, hands and elbows and bruising of the wrists consistent with handcuffs.

    Signed by Dr. Andrew M. Baker, it says Floyd had tested positive for the novel coronavirus on April 3. A post-mortem nasal swab confirmed that diagnosis. The report notes that because a positive result for coronavirus can persist for weeks after the disease has resolved, "the result most likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent ... positivity from previous infection."

    In addition to fentanyl and methamphetamine, the toxicology report from the autopsy showed that Floyd also had cannabinoids in his system when he died.

    Floyd also had heart disease, hypertension and sickle cell trait — a mostly asymptomatic form of the more serious sickle cell disease, an inherited blood disorder that primarily affects African Americans.

    On Wednesday, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison announced upgraded charges of second-degree unintentional murder against Chauvin. The charge carries a maximum penalty of 40 years in prison.

  • FFGhost
    photographic evidence that shows Chauvin's knee was across Floyd's shoulders.
    Dr. Tobin said that Mr. Chauvin and other police officers had restricted Mr. Floyd’s breathing by flattening his rib cage against the pavement and pushing his cuffed hands into his torso, and by the placement of Mr. Chauvin’s knees on his neck and back.
  • LoveUniHateExams

    @FFGhost - did you actually watch the video?

  • FFGhost
    did you actually watch the video?

    Yes, I see photos of a police officer with his knee on Floyd's back & neck.

    Curiously, quite consistent with Tobin's testimony.

  • LoveUniHateExams

    From the author of your link:

    It was a video everyone in the courtroom has been shown repeatedly, of George Floyd facedown on the street with Derek Chauvin’s knee on his neck

    The video I posted presents evidence that challenges the narrative that George Floyd died because of Chauvin's knee allegedly pressing against his neck for 9 minutes.

    This is what the media have done - they've spun it that Chauvin's knee was pressed against Floyd's neck for nine minutes, killing him. From another angle, we see Chauvin's knee was pressed against Floyd's shoulders.

    ^^^ This is reasonable doubt that Chauvin murdered Floyd by pressing his knee against Floyd's neck, no?

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