What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother 475 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Acts5v29
    Acts5v29

    Good morning Outlaw

    All you`ve done is..

    Slap a Different "Time Line" on Armageddon..


    The watchtower mentions the scriptures, so there are bound to be similarities - but the differences are vast: Armageddon does appear in the inspired scriptures, so it is going to happen sometime - but the timeline of the watchtower is clearly wrong. Armageddon will happen sometime after God's intervention, but it is not synchonised to it.

    And..

    Non Believers of your Faith/God "STILL DIE"..


    Well not really. worshipJehovah.org is not a religion, and everyone - good or bad, believing in the intervention or not - will be rescued alive at God's intervention. We do not impose rules or beliefs on anyone, infact neither I nor my colleagues are allowed to teach scripture and beliefs.


    When the intervention comes, then Christ will be in active authority - we will hear God's guidance from him, not the filtered version through religions - and people will be free to follow or not: either to stay independent, or to follow God's direct guidance. As for Armageddon, that only comes when some have decided to actively fight and defeat the Christ who will have come to solve the crisis that was killing us - remember the illustration of the vineyard?...


    "This is the heir! Let's kill him, and the inheritance will resort to us"


    - then, and then alone, will they be killed. But by that time, their belligerence will be beyond doubt and beyond reform.



  • Acts5v29
    Acts5v29

    In response to coffy who has claimed I threatened him in a letter, and after receiving many a belligerent post on the thread, I volunteer the PM I wrote to him entitled:


    "must this continue...?"



    If I may, I would like to mention something that happened many many years ago.


    A fellow director made a spurious court claim against my defunct company. I had to get legal counsel, and since I could see he had no case I said I would like to write to this ex-director to offer him shares in the new company rather than him take this action which could only go wrong for him. My counsel said that is the very thing I should not do.

    So the court case arose, my counsel was not allowed to speak in court or communicate with me during the proceedings. The case went more badly than I could have imagined: the judge denounced the director strongly, who had threatened to sue his own legal counsel as his case collapsed, and more to the point he had brought his son to the proceedings in order to savour his expectation of victory.

    I knew he did not have a case and did not want him to be embarrassed, but ultimately there was nothing I could do, to my regret. He died a few months later.



    I cannot answer questions to you which are not relevant, just because you want them to be. Some posts are becoming unkind, exaggerated and slanderous now. Please, save yourself further in this - the ministry is what it is and happens to be immune to your particular questionings. I sincerely do not wish you to be upset when the ministry itself is to bring a release of stress in people.


    sincerely,


    Acts5v29

    I hope this will show - from its title to its ending - that it was a plea for posts on the thread to be more reasonable and subdued, and not a threat at-all.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Good Morning OUTLAW

    The watchtower mentions the scriptures, so there are bound to be similarities - but the differences are vast: Armageddon does appear in the inspired scriptures, so it is going to happen sometime - but the timeline of the watchtower is clearly wrong. Armageddon will happen sometime after God's intervention, but it is not synchonised to it......Acts5V29

    You preach "There will be an Armageddon"..So does Watchtower..

    .......................You Differ On Time Line..
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    Well not really. worshipJehovah.org is not a religion, and everyone - good or bad, believing in the intervention or not - will be rescued alive at God's intervention. We do not impose rules or beliefs on anyone, infact neither I nor my colleagues are allowed to teach scripture and beliefs.

    Priceless.......A few days ago..

    A JW made a 2 hr trip into the mountains,to my door and "Preached" the EXACT same thing..

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    When the intervention comes, then Christ will be in active authority - we will hear God's guidance from him, not the filtered version through religions - and people will be free to follow or not: either to stay independent, or to follow God's direct guidance. As for Armageddon, that only comes when some have decided to actively fight and defeat the Christ who will have come to solve the crisis that was killing us - remember the illustration of the vineyard?...

    "This is the heir! Let's kill him, and the inheritance will resort to us"

    - then, and then alone, will they be killed. But by that time, their belligerence will be beyond doubt and beyond reform.

    Your still Peddling the WatchTower Message..

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  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    Agree with Outlaw here.

    and everyone - good or bad, believing in the intervention or not - will be rescued alive at God's intervention

    At that moment, will God destroy the irreligious, the openly gay couples, the scientists that openly advocate evolution, the people addicted to alcohol/drugs/pornography, the militant atheists, etc.?

    Your move ...

  • cofty
    cofty
    Armageddon does appear in the inspired scriptures, so it is going to happen sometime - Acts 15

    There is your mistake right there.

    First you have to explain how a book that advocates disgusting morals and that is full of scientific and historical errors and false prophecies can be inspired.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    You understand very well that I made no threat,...........Acts5V29

    Lets have a look..

    I knew he did not have a case and did not want him to be embarrassed, but ultimately there was nothing I could do, to my regret. He died a few months later......Acts5V29

    Does that look like a threat?..Nope..

    The Accusation of it "Being a Threat", is a StrawMan..


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  • cofty
    cofty

    Outlaw - Somebody who is guilty of a straw man fallacy avoids difficult arguments and invents a false position that they can attack more easily.

    I have addressed the theology of Acts head-on. I am possibly the only person who read her 96 page document in full and challenged the main points of it with evidence. I quoted from the document to illustrate my objections and dealt honestly with her arguments with regard to the context. Therefore I am not guilty of committing a straw man fallacy.

    I objected to her ridiculous PM which basically said - "It doesn't go well for people who oppose me". It was idiotic of her but I am focussed on the content of her document.

    On the other hand you accused her of being a JW apologist without even bothering to understand her position. This is called a straw man fallacy.

    As usual your contribution to the conversation has consisted of cartoons.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    You Made a Claim..

    As for your PM it was a passive-aggressive threat about somebody who opposed you once before and who died. With your permission I will post it here in full......cofty

    No Threat was Made..

    I knew he did not have a case and did not want him to be embarrassed, but ultimately there was nothing I could do, to my regret. He died a few months later......Acts5V29

    Not once in your post to me,did you Address the Alleged Threat..

    You avoided the subject completely and constructed more Lame StrawMen..

    As usual your contribution to the conversation has consisted of cartoons.....cofty

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  • cofty
    cofty
    Not once in your post to me,did you Address the Alleged Threat..

    Yes I did. You must have read it too quickly.

    In 14 years have you ever held a conversation Outlaw?

    All I ever see is cartoons or personal attacks or both.

    Who is the real Outlaw? The original militant agnostic - "I don't know and neither do you!"

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Yes I did. You must have read it too quickly....cofty

    Lets see what you said..

    I objected to her ridiculous PM which basically said - "It doesn't go well for people who oppose me".

    Basically said??!!..

    NEWS FLASH!!.....We can Read the PM for Ourselves..

    They never said that at all..

    That`s what a Strawman is.....Make shit up nobody said,then refute it..

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