by zeb 170 Replies latest social current
Look at the difference in treatment when there was an accusation against Cliff Richard - a famous white Christian. The police were giving tours to the media and invited them to film a very public search operation before any charges had even been investigated or charges made (they never were).
Why the different treatment?
They are covering up the truth of these crimes just as they tried to cover up their existence in the first place.
The problem is moral cowardice. That is a problem.
Even if Tommy Tobinsom did violate the terms of his parole or whatever, don’t Britains have the right to know what happened? Yet I read the newspapers are scared. You are not under martial law are you? Besides that fellow does need protection. He has a right to that.
Do you think there will be riots if these Mudlims Muslims arrested for the sex gangs are convicted?
Do you think there will be riots if these Muslims arrested for the sex gangs are convicted?
That is a terrible indictment of the communities involved if true, that they are willing to use false claims of racism to defend industrial scale child molestation. But then we already know that is the situation - I don't buy that the people in these communities didn't know what was going on and they did nothing.
It would also be a mistake to pander to intimidation like that - the threat of riots shouldn't affect any decision other than to have the riot squad / army on standby to deal with them in an efficient manner.
This is all of interest. But you are missing the point.. His life can not be guarented in prison.
Please anyone in any commonwealth country email the British PM or any British member of parliament for his release.
His life can not be guarented in prison - the last time he was in prison (for fraud) he was put in solitary confinement for his own protection.
The two options here must be solitary confinement and a non-custodial punishment.
So ... Tommy Robinson. I understand where he comes from completely ... but ... like many "crusaders" you can go too far. As I see it he had an accumulation of offences which meant the "slammer" for him. 13 months seems disproportionate but if he is a good boy he will be out after six and a half and as a "known" face he is unlikely to be killed/injured in prison.
As for the case he is protesting about - there is a very real danger that (if he "skews" the case by highlighting details or inciting a view that defendants are already guilty) there is a very real chance that the defence will cry "foul" and there will be a mistrial and they might get off scot-free.
Let's be clear, any mention of Robinson on the news or in new media will have "poison the well" labels such as "far-right", "racist", "Islamaphobic", such as those used by the press covering the Downing Street protest on Saturday.
The gagging order isn't necessarily against Robinson's arrest, but rather against the court case for the grooming gang, outside which he was live streaming. The argument FOR the court case having a gagging order is to protect the witnesses from intimidation. Read into that what you will...
However, Robinson asked the police officers in attendance if what he was doing, live streaming from the public pavement BEFORE the sentencing hearing (ie. the court case had already been heard by a judge and the defendants, all of whom, I believe, were out on police bail, were returning to hear what the verdict/sentencing would be), was ok or if he couldn't do it. And, of course, he was told he could do it by the police; public pavement, no restriction on filming or live streaming from there.
He was careful not to get on camera anyone not associated with the case who were there as witnesses/observers.
He also notes during the live stream that the trial judge was watching him from the window, and there are screenshots that seem to back this up.
A few minutes later, 6 police officers arrive to arrest him on suspicion of causing a breach of the peace.
The breach of the peace edict is a very tricky one legally as you can be arrest on SUSPICION of causing one, or even the pre-crime-esque charge of conspiring to cause one (ie. you actually haven't, but you may do in the future). People who planned peaceful protests before Prince William's wedding were arrested a couple of days before the event in case they went ahead with their protest and somehow caused a breach of the peace.
It's also an edict that can be rolled out and applied to just about anything; standing in a public place where your presence may not be wanted by third parties. Handing out leaflets criticising an ideology. Etc etc. Breach of the peace is used often by the police/state to stop such behaviour.
Now the very word "suspicion" surely implies evidence then needs to be gathered to establish whether the suspicion is based on fact. However, the very quick turn around of his arrest and sentencing suggests, to me, that this didn't happen.
Of course, he'd already been given a 3 month suspended sentence for his actions where he confronted men convicted of being part of a grooming gang outside a court. So where the 13 months comes from is strange, as surely it would be, upon the delivery of evidence, a 3-month sentence.
On the case he was reporting on, from what I've read there wasn't a jury that could be influenced by media coverage, the hearing was in front of a judge only. However, who can tell if this is accurate as there's zero press reporting on it. If, though, it was a judge and a judge only, how could covering the case be seen as potentially skewing the verdict?
To me, Islam is the holy cow religion. It cannot be criticised. It cannot be held to account. Within Islam there are clear teachings to hold no law other than Shariah, and there have been loud, vocal protests by Muslims in the UK against UK law, featuring banners that say things like "the only law we obey is Shariah". So we have a situation in the UK where groups of Islamic followers are breaking the law, harming children and the press either won't or can't cover these cases. The police have their hands tied by politician's (such as the Labour MP who liked and retweet a comment that the victims of the Rotherham rape gangs should "shut their mouths for the sake of diversity) and Mayors (like Khan in London).
So-called "Islamaphobia" is put in the same category as homophobia, racism and sexism when in reality Islam is a fucking choice...
So yes, Robinson put himself in a dodgy situation, but when you retrace the circumstances that led to his arrest, he can't really be to blame, but rather the fear of offending Muslims, Muslim intimidation and the liberal/leftwing policies that protect them.
"His life can not be guarented in prison - the last time he was in prison (for fraud) he was put in solitary confinement for his own protection.
The two options here must be solitary confinement and a non-custodial punishment."
The last time he was in prison the guards put him in a room then allowed 4 or 5 Muslim prisons in and closed the door. He lost his front teeth, but the guards had been assured that 1. they wouldn't kill him and 2. if they didn't have some access to him, they'd do worse to someone else, even a prison officer.
As he put it, some of the Mulsim prisoners are in for life for atrocious crimes. They have no issue killing someone in prison and having a few more years added to their tariff. The officers fear for their own safety and will comply to protect themselves.
Yes, one of the occasions an officer told him "when you're told to leave your cell refuse" and this resulting in him being put in solitary confinement, but it wasn't State mandated for his protection, but rather a nod and a wink from a screw trying to help.
During another incarceration, he was tipped off that he was going to be attacked with boiling water and sugar, and he was told which cell the attack was coming from, so he hit first. This was covered in a UK documentary where he was, of course, made to look like the bad guy.
I'd be very surprised if he makes it out alive this time.
I just spent two hours at the British High Commission in Canberra Australia protesting the incarceration of Tommy Robinson. Tommy did no wrong he incited nothing and used the word allege to describe the charges in relation to the Muslim Gang. There have been thousands of English white girls groomed by these bastards.
Just saw a video . A muslim man in England was arrested for belting a policeman over the head with a brick. The oval Imam went to the police and told the officers there if the muslim man wasn't released there would be a riot. He was released pronto.
This problem is coming to a city or town near all of us be aware and protect your loved ones
As for protecting a him in prison—if he is where his enemies are and the correctional officers are afraid or bought he is at the mercy of the inmates.
When the truth about what a person’s story gets this distorted there is so much chaos that people who are measured and law abiding become confused. When the strands of the story don’t hold anymore they revert to their biases. Do rowdy white brawlers put you off? Down with Tommy! Do foreigners make your skin crawl? Down with Brown skins! Sometimes rational people don’t believe that things can be this fucked up. But it can happen.
My son was in an Arkansas prison. For decades they have been run by the inmates. The guards themselves are afraid or in collusion with the network. The power and communication is there. They extort money for protection, they have the ability to terrorize free people.
If there is genuine concern for the principle of law then citizens should stand solid with Tommy on principle—do not let the thing continue as a Muslim vs. White Britain matter. Demand justice, transparency. Honesty.
It means getting some skin in the game. At least a little- maybe a lot- of time.
Address of police department was West Yorkshire where Tommy was arrested?
Relevant authorities where Tommy is held?
British men should announce that they will not shave or cut their hair until they are satisfied that justice is served truly for Tommy. ( Muslim men will be consternated with the intentions of their own beards)Women will find a way to protest.
There must be push back.
