It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  slimboyfat

  My initial response was one of anger. In a flurry of tears and screaming I tried to wrench the phone from Dijana. Then, as reality slowly dawned, I realized she had every right to know that the man she had married and made so many sacrifices for was a messed up person with serious issues.

  It seems in character that he would be abusive in a situation like this and he is trying to minimise it (fewer “tears” and more “screaming” in reality) by appearing “reflective” about it. What a nightmare of a person to be around. When he does wrong it’s you who is at fault - the exact same manoeuvre he has attempted over the past year on anyone who has objected to his behaviour. The fact that he downplays his abuse (fake tears and all) does indicate that he is aware of how it would look from an outsider perspective. So he’s probably fully aware of what he’s doing over the past year too.
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  Thisismein1972

  It was the phones fault. It was just sitting there begging me to pick it up and start texting those girls who seduced me. I was trapped and it's the universes fault.

  How dare my wife cry, she doesn't know how repressed I am.

  There, fixed it for him.
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  slimboyfat

  It’s like the old joke -

  Man comes home two hours early to find his wife in bed with another man.

  “What have you done!” He shouts.

  “Don’t change the subject”, she snaps back, “why do you never arrive at the time you say you will?”
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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  My understanding was that dijana went back home and Lloyd followed her and agreed to move there to be with her.

  Wasn’t that what Marko was saying in those FB posts in 2017? That they tried to help her get away from him and he followed? I think he said that in his testimony too.

  I doesn’t surprise me she told you that because it is completely in character for Dijana. She does not like confrontation, she felt betrayed by him and didn’t want to go through the humiliation of testifying about what he did in front of the elders. The only way she felt she could stop that behaviour was by leaving him and putting him in the position where he’d have to convince her to keep that marriage going.

  The sad thing is that she should have ended it then and there. Her life would be so much different now. But Lloyd had organisational policy on his side and what he did with those “girls” was pornea, not for fornication. I’m sure he frequently reminded her that if she left it would not be a scriptural divorce and she would not be free to marry anyone else.
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  LoveUniHateExams

  @SBF - yes, that was what I thought when I read Lloyd's story.

  Lloyd can spin quite a good yarn, minimising or skipping over stuff that reflects badly on him.

  So let me spell it out: Lloyd had been indulging in online sex stuff, which his wife, Dijana, discovered on his phone. Then Lloyd started crying and screaming, trying to grab the phone.

  He sounds just like a spoilt toddler, doesn't he. 🤣

  Poor Dijana, being married to this toxic clown.
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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  Then Lloyd started crying and screaming, trying to grab the phone.

  Maybe he then accused Dijana of making his sexting partner upset by reading a private and intimate text...
  
  
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  Toblerone5

  After reading your post LMSA , thanks by the way , now I have some question...about this

  My understanding was that dijana went back home and Lloyd followed her...

  Went did she get pregnant ? Could it be , he did that in purpose for he to get pregnant ,that way she would be trap to stay with him ? Or , it was an accident , and he use that to guilt trip her to stay with him cause ''think of the Baby ,Dijana , Do you really want our child to be born in a broken home , fake tears , sniff sniff, sniff sniff sniff ( I know there is a lot of sniff ,but did you ever see the size of his nose?)
  
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  KIMSILVIO

  The sad thing is that she should have ended it then and there.

  It was ultimately that her parents told her she had to stay with him.
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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  It was ultimately that her parents told her she had to stay with him.

  So Lloyd benefitted from JW doctrine keeping his wife in check. And then quickly discarded those beliefs once she had returned to him, writing her a letter on 1 January 2010 outlining all his doubts about the org.

  Went did she get pregnant ? Could it be , he did that in purpose for he to get pregnant ,that way she would be trap to stay with him ?

  She had their first child a few years later, in May 2014. The time period being spoken about is in 2009 when Lloyd got caught sexting and Dijana fled to Croatia.
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  Toblerone5

  I now look back with some relief that, during my brief time as an elder, I was never called upon to deliberate at one of these tribunals.

  Are you kidding me? He would have LOVED to have been on those tribunals ! Sorry , he would have been the one to Start those tribunals in the first place! O.M.G. can you imagine what kind of elder he would have become if he had the chance ? Brother so and so ,I really didn't like the comment you made about ME the other day ...My wife didn't like it either , Now I demand a public apology to me and my wife

  Well he was maybe never call on one of those tribunal , and get to blame,judge and bully somebody , but he sure made up for it when he came on this forum!

  Then on Jwwatch. Youtube,Facebook, Twitter...Sisak courthouse...