It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Jehalapeno
    I realise this was recorded in 2021 but am I right in thinking they've just released it?

    No, it wasn’t just released. They’re transferring their podcast to YouTube. They’re uploading older episodes. The episode was previously only available on Spotify and other podcast places. I doubt Leah and Mike even did this themselves. They probably hired someone to take all their old podcasts, turn them into videos, and then upload to YouTube.

  • Simon
    A walk down memory lane with Lloyd and some of the OG Activists

    Absolutely brilliant - shows up his utter hypocrisy and grift.

  • Vintage

    This video is only 8 1/2 minutes. It's 2 months old. I don't know how I missed it. It's great because it addresses the vulnerability of exjws who, having escaped Watchtower, latched onto Evans,...thinking that they'd found a new home,... only to have to uproot themselves again.

    On the Edge with Andrew Gold
    Leaving Lloyd Evans - 5 worrying signs you're in a cult (AGAIN!)

  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    He speaks well and makes some excellent points. But I disagree with him when he suggest joining multiple cults.

  • Vintage

    Anna Marina, I think that he’s saying that tongue-in-cheek. I think he’s really saying that people should find several groups that seem like good possibilities for friendship and support, and then, when one turns out to be toxic, drop that one and keep the others,... while keeping an eye out for yet another that might be a good match.

  • Chinapomo

    Lloyd quits the bunker, as per his latest video...and he's blaming it on mold issues... Sure pal.

    Most likely parents in law kicking him out. Whatever the truth is, I'm sure it has nothing to do with mold. Why? Because we know you Lloyd, and you are a compulsive liar.

    On a side note he will definitely ask for more money to his cult followers because he will have to "renovate" the new location and will have to start actually paying for the rent (money that will instead be used to fund his sexcapades and lawsuit litigations)... Mark my word.

  • Vintage

    If there actually “is” some speck of mold in the bunker,... perhaps due to heavy rain and a flood,... Lloyd might be using that as in the Aesops’ Fable of the Fox and the Sour Grapes. “Aw. The bunker had mold anyway.”

  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    Vintage - he is talking about cult thinking. He opens up talking about communities being cults and getting in too deep with a 'community'.

    Interesting he does not use the word 'society'.

    He says cults (ie communities) are on a spectrum. You can have a 10 out of 10 for Jonestown and 4 out of 10 for a fitness guru.

    So from what he is saying, all communities are cults but they can all be rated. So to my mind, he is suggesting searching out a 1 out of 10 cult.

    Then he starts talking about the cult of personality and asks where Lloyd Evans sits on that scale. So, he has shifted away from 'community' (ie a collection of people) to the individual who takes the lead. Then he asks if you might still be in a bit of a cult.

    THEN he goes onto cult thinking and quotes Salman Rushdie who I assume was speaking in relation to Islam. Then he talks about sacred words. I am guessing he means trigger words or something like Neuro Linguistic Programing. He also says about rituals and icons in his videos and says he might even start using them himself. Is he joking or not joking? He's got a couple of candles things behind him.

    By using these sacred words (he says) religions make themselves mysterious and you get hooked.

    A cult is hard to leave.

    WT is hard to leave but exjw found Lloyd Evan's channel.

    He says he really likes the Amanda Montel Theory - don't leave cults. You don't leave a cult you might be in, in fact you should be joining many cults.

    He says this around the 3:30 mark.

    Vintage he is not joking. He's saying all 'communities' (from book club to religion) are cults. He says to leave when a community does not acts fittingly of your cult move onto the next.

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz

    Love your videos Kim, keep them coming

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