Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

by pale.emperor 83 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Hanged Man
    Hanged Man

    PE....that elder looks and acts like the training day guy in "the office"


  • sparrowdown

    Makes me sick to see these smug assholes on a powertrip sitting around disecting and discussing the personal lives of other people like they actually have a god-given right to do so.

  • stuckinarut2

    Is this one of those videos where they show what NOT to do, then use that as a basis for discussion in the elders meeting??

    The GB have done that in the past. (remember that video a few years back showing the wrong way to console a sister who lost her husband to death?)


    Matthew 6:1-4

    6 “Take care not to practice your righteousness in front of men to be noticed by them;a otherwise you will have no reward with your Father who is in the heavens. 2 So when you make gifts of mercy,b do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be glorified by men.c Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your gifts of mercy may be in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you.

    Elder Jeff : '' Well Sarah is 34 and she's been pioneering for eight years so she's not old by any means and eight years as a pioneer ..it's not an exceptionally long time.''

    In Jehovah's Watchtower Land, Sarah is not carrying her weight. She's trying but seems a little tired out. She's not meeting the high standards that are required for the title of ''Pioneer.'' We can show her scriptures on other men of the Bible couldn't carry their weight any longer. Sarah did pioneer for ''only'' eight years and that isn't breaking any records. She's only spent 6400 hours as a Pioneer in the last 8 years and now that she spends only 600 hours per year, we need to inform her that the title ''Pioneer'' needs to be pulled.
    My question is: Why does anyone pioneer? How did 80 hours a month in service make you a better Jehovah's Witness than if you did 10 hours a month of field? If you never had to fill out a form with the knowledge of the the Elders and the congregation members that you were a '' Pioneer,'' would you still do it?

  • jp1692
    Stuck: Is this one of those videos where they show what NOT to do?

    LOL. You might be right. The trouble is that—unless they tell us which it is—it’s impossible to tell them apart!

    It’s the WT version of Poe’s Law turning on them. Oh the irony.

  • Sliced

    the OP video is ONLY being considered and viewed by ELDERS - NOT by Ministerial Servants.

    THANKS!!! Missed that point.

  • stuckinarut2

    OK, I have watched it right through now, and sadly I think it is legit!

    I think it is actually a video designed to show them the CORRECT way of handling things! I had hoped it was a video showing how NOT to handle matters...but alas...they really are that arbitrary and legalistic and full of self importance!

  • cha ching
    cha ching

    My husband, ex-elder, called bullshit 6 times in the first 36 seconds... haha! He can't take it! "What universe does that video apply in!?" We can't stop laughing!

  • Wasanelder Once
    Wasanelder Once

    Brother 1: "We need to remove her for coming up short on her hours. That reminds me, did we all get our 10 hours last month."

    Brother 1: "So sorry brothers but I had to take the kids to Disneyland. I came up short.

    Brother 2: "I was busy finishing the painting on our patio benches and came up short. So sorry brothers. It should be dry in a month and I'll be right back at it."

    Brother 3: "I too, I'm afraid, have come up short. I've been organizing my porn collection. I think another 3 months should suffice to put it in order."

  • cha ching
    cha ching

    OMG, I can't stop laughing, I have never been an 'elder', I am a woman, haha, and all this negotiating about 'Sarah's surgery' and '3 month recuperation time' they sound like Hal the computer with their "we gave her 3 months like the Dr said, and she still didn't make it"!

    Is this a comedy? I can only take one minute at a time w/o stopping to laugh!

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