Perhaps you would like to stand guard yourself in
Ho, that’s an irrelevant comment and pure evasion. It does not address the human rights issue. You might not want those people to have human rights, and you might find it acceptable for them to be held in conditions that would violate the
’s own Constitution if it took place on
soil. Others do not, and others see the double standard that the
’s government are displaying.
I may not know all the details of this camp, …
Ah! So you know what you’re talking about and are making an informed comment? Or just reacting with a nationalistic knee jerk without knowing the details?
… however I do believe the most of the Islamic prisoners there would kill me, my family, or anyone I know just to prove their point because I happen to be from the
Yes Ho, but serial killers would kill you, your family, or anyone you knew just because they are serial killers, and serial killers are afforded human rights and Constitutional protections. The prisoners in
bay have no such protection. Unless you are willing to state categorically that they do not deserve such rights (which, as you don’t know all the details would be unwise), I find it hard to see what justification the USA’s government has for their actions when they would rain fire on anyone who treated USA nationals in the same fashion. The
was up in arms when am American kid was canned for vandalism in
a few years back. Double standard me thinks, what do you think?
Do you know of any reasonable short term with long term lasting affects solutions to such a delima for me, my family, any one I know, or anyone els from the US? I don't, but would like to here something.
Let them be tried in exactly the same way that the American citizen arrested for trying to shoe bomb a plane was, and sentenced in the same way.
Once one government ignores international standards and takes advantage of judicial loopholes to hold prisoners in a no-mans land under conditions that violate the detaining countries own laws, it sets a precedent and destroys trust and respect for that country.
For the love of Peter Paul and Mary, what propoganda.
And what was Powell’s performance at the UN?
Using terms like "death camp" to evoke an emotional response.
Yeah, I hate that, like using ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’ to evoke an emotional response.
The Concentration camps in
were "Death Camps" Guantanemo is not being converted to a "death camp" but a permenant prison at which criminals may be executed.
I would love for you to go there and explain the difference to them. That might cut through the tide of propaganda and double think, and would certainly be informative viewing.
Do we call the Death Row Prisons in the
"death camps" No, not at all.
No, they are tried in a court of law, not a military court, they have rights that cannot be denied them legally, whereas the
prisoners only have the rights that the
sees fit to give them. If you can draw parallels between those two you have no knowledge of geometry, let alone ethics.
I have no problem what so ever with the treatment of the terrorists in Guantanemo, they are NOT prisoners of war, they are terrorists.
So you’re happy with legalistic loopholes that would not be allowed on US soil being taken apart of? Don’t you think this opens the
for charges of being dishonest and hypocritical? And many of these terrorists were strictly speaking paramilitaries when they were captured, making their identification as terrorists tenuous; most countries feel they should be treated as POWs… but of course, your country, right or wrong…
military Tribunals that will try them are a lot more fair than the judicial systems of most of the countries these nut cases come from.
Irrelevant and there are no real protections to stop mistrials in
is affording its own citizens charged with terrorism (like
) different treatment. The same crime should have the same penalty.
“… and full of Anti-American tripe…. “
Yay!!!! Rather than rebutting the argument by showing the statements are untrue, Yeru describes it as, amongst other things, Anti-American. Now why would anyone want to be anti a country that has double standards in dishing out justice? That holds people off its own soil in conditions that would be illegal on its own soil? That ignores the opinion of most countries that such behaviour is wrong? HOW COULD ANYONE POSSIBLY BE ANTI-AMERICAN IN THE FACE OF SUCH A SHINING EXAMPLE OF TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE
? Who else rejects statements because they are anti-something, rather than addressing the statements themselves?
As to the Iraqi prisoners of war, well over half of those taken prisoner have been released. Sure, the
government should make them available to the Red Cross...AFTER the prisoners have been debriefed.
Could you quote me which part of the Geneva Convention that is in? Seriously, it’s nice you make statements like ‘the
government should make them available to the Red Cross’, but I don’t know if you’re giving opinion about the debriefing or quoting the Geneva Convention.
Your answer to FunkyD shows contempt for the principles of innocent until proven guilty. I hope you never run into a situation where someone shows contempt for your presumption of innocence. Fortunately for you, you have protections. Unfortunately the prisoners in
And you still haven’t answered my question on anther thread regarding your feelings about the
supporting terrorist activity, revolution and insurgents, or the financial aid US citizens gave the IRA before terrorism became untrendy in the