It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon 2117 Replies latest jw friends

  • Chinapomo

    Lloyd is in a situation where it's better for him to actually not post any update on his Patreon. Most of those subscribers are probably not even aware that they are still paying him. They must have forgotten. But every time he misses a call or posts an update they get a notification and are reminder that they are wasting their money and so are likely to cancel the subscription.

  • Toblerone5

    From April to Dec ,so 9 months ,he lost 183 Patrons so far and there's still one month to go...

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    So he’s on track to be round his January 2023 levels or perhaps slightly ahead.

    Safe to say that his begging stunts do not work anymore in the long term.

    400 patrons is more like his ceiling. He’s not gaining anymore. For the first time in awhile he’s now forced to be conscious as to how he spends his money.

  • Diogenesister
    Because his name isn't James Evanston

    .....or is it?🤔....da da dAHHH!🤨

  • TonusOH

    T5: So who would care ,must be the one that give more $$$ each months

    That's a good point. I wonder how much of his remaining support is people pledging high amounts versus people on the lower tiers? Maybe that is why his enthusiasm is waning; I think he would feel insulted at having to produce anything for anyone but the most generous. Or did you lower-tier people think that he is actually grateful that you give $1 or $5 every month?

  • Ron.W.
    I think he would feel insulted at having to produce anything,,,


  • Diogenesister
    Safe to say that his begging stunts do not work anymore in the long term.

    Yup....but don't hold ya breath, folks, if you think he'll stop. Just wait for everyone's unfavourite "Hoe Hoe Hoe" Santa to announce his supa dupa Xmas Special🎄

    ... and a great first Christmas Present for all your EX JW Besties.....

    The Lloyd Evans Channel LIFE TIME MEMBERSHIP🃏 for only $500 🤡with your very own private zoom call on your birthday, to boot (make that any time if you're female and "definitely under over 20")

  • btlc

    Humping a Christmas tree live streaming?

  • Simon
    But, with policies like that it's no wonder they're declining. Like AirBNB and so many, they start with a good idea but then it gets bloated and shitty policies get revealed and the bubble soon deflates or outright bursts.

    Same with Uber - people forget why certain service industries exist as they did, and what legislation was there to protect people. Yes, there is sometimes some waste and bureaucracy, but a lot of these modern takes on established ideas miss out on a lot of the important rules and protections and it turns out they are not so wonderful or innovative as they first seem - they just avoid paying their true costs.

    Many are just outright fraudulent and got high valuations from inflated users numbers, sometimes through artificial use due to the unique and temporary situation of "free money" 0% interest rates while "money-printer go brrrrrr".

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    Patreon has in recent years been financially impacted in negative ways. Their take was originally 5% - now it is 12%. They also attempted to tack on a service charge to Patrons until they received so much backlash that they cancelled it.

    They also closed offices in Ireland and Germany and laid off close to 20% of their workforce.

    Hardly signs of a thriving business model. Since so many creators are dependent upon Patreon, they can get away with increasing their take some more.

    What, is Jabba the Hutt going to close his Patreon account?

    I’d hate to have 90% of my livelihood hinging on them and their whims. It’s really a service created for what amounts to “tips”, not for someone to live off.

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