wow... again. im glad i was able to come back and saw some of the responses. well first i would like to mention to little toe. first of all... "little toe" whats that all about... second of all the troll - the truth=the troll. again i think most people on this sight have too much times on their hands. i want to make a point that i have noticed - when i first came onto this thread - i noticed that people we saying that watchtower had closed its doors - and that bethelites were not allowed to watch. then when i made my comment about having a brother in bethel and that he saw the whole thing and that they helped anyone they could coming over the bridge. - now everyones focus changed. why? becuase they knew i was right. now everyone is talking about how no one went to the actual ground zero and helped reconstruct - or how they dont "beleive" that watchtower helped because "WE" see it like noahs arch. - well not true. we do want to help those who are not witness - remember there is still time. in the days of noahs arch. he would have let people come in. if they would have listened before the doors had closed. well that is another bag of worms - but the truth is that i can not again give a number of how many were helped by witnesses - but i will say this. if the watchtower did close some of its doors. i would not blame them. not just their security but the NATIONS security was in danger. that day "us" as a nation were not secured. and im sure many businesses and homes closed that day. and how many releigious orginazations can you name that did go help reconstruct. and how many churches were in the area who did help hundreds? instead of just dozens? and in answer the the person who spoke about the press not mentioning anything about witnesses not helping - well... i didnt see anything on any other religion either. soooooooooo...... why should the watchtower be looked at as INHUMAN , or NON CARING. im glad people like little toe are ready my comments. it helps this website out to have at least one person who is not trying to go against JEHOVAHS orginization. also one last question. out of all of these EX_JW - what religion HAVE you found the truth in? i am very curios to hear. becuase i have not yet to see anyon mention as to where they find the truth. if not in the watchtower. e.a
did wt shut doors 9/11?
Boy, they sure really help molested children, too! Yup, they tell ya to call the police right away, get the kids into counseling, they would'nt "rely on their own counsel, of course, they know their not educated in sexual abuse counseling! Yup, real altruistic, keep their doors wide open!!
and now we have someone else getting away from the topic - i guess i must have made a pretty good point - (on a side note please excuse my spelling i am at work and just type and do not have a chance to check my spelling before i send)----well if anyone would like to talk to me about child abuse -wich is a very popular tool these days with apostates - please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org thank you.
I think the extent of Bethel's response to the 9/11 tragedy must be measured by (1) the historic magnitude of the tragedy; (2) the unique placement of their manpower and resources in such proximity to Ground Zero; and (3) the enormous potential utility of such resources (manpower and available space in the building complex to the rescue effort; and (4) their grandiose claim to be the only genuine Christians on earth.
Obviously I don't have the facts and hesitate to judge; but my past experience suggests that had they made more than a token gesture, they would be crowing about it incessantly in their magazines, perhaps having even produced a VHS tape of ``Bethel in Action." Therefore my bet would be placed rather on ``Bethel Inaction." This is one instance oin which I hope I'm entirely wrong.
Hey theTruth,JW`s don`t see WBTS as noah`s ark? Your either a liar or you don`t know much about your own religion...."If the Watchtower did close some of their doors I would not blame them.".a quote from your last post..First you got a brother who saw the whole thing,and WBTS helped all these people..Now you conceed doors may have been closed?..Your a real reliable spokesman for what happened at WBTS on 911.... A bullshit artist and not a very good one LOL!...OUTLAW
notice..... SOME of their doors - NOTICE didnt mention ALL of their doors - was very careful in choosing those words since i knew someone would try and get me on a technicality instead of have hard facts.------ well like i said... my brother was there... and they did help alot of people according to what he informed me. if anyone was there... that saw differently. then i will take that into consideration but untill then all i can base your opinions on is some third parties accounts of the facts. THAT is not very reliable. --------also inresponse to the noahs arch. again if we do see wtbs as modern days noahs arch. we are still pearching and there would still be chances for people to enter the arch. and also it is important to note that your guys are taking the noahs arch thing in a literal since. if anything it would have to be in a simbolical sense since not all 6 million of us can fit inside of bethel in brocklyn.
You want to help people? *LOL* Become JWs maybe, where is JW philanthropy? Nowhere cuz it simply doesn't exist.....*LOL*
Noah's Arch indeed...even a 4 year old JW could spell Ark...sheesh..
in answer the the person who spoke about the press not mentioning anything about witnesses not helping - well... i didnt see anything on any other religion either. soooooooooo......
If you are speaking to me, the sight I posted was from the JW media site...more like bullshit....over 8500 individuals helped in the cleanup of the WTC rubble and I bet you couldn't find any JWs among them...or at least I would be suprised. If there were JWs there why didn't the Writing dept capitolize on it and put it in one of thier rags? You decide...I also wonder how much money the WTBTS gave to the disater relief funds? Chicken shit Bethel boys wouldn't go down there and risk their lives and help out..Also, why didn't they open up their gigantic printing press and help those that had been displaced shortly after the disaster? mmmm?
why should the watchtower be looked at as INHUMAN , or NON CARING
eh beacause they are!...Just multiply the WTC disaster by a million and you got your Armageddon...not much of a paradise on earth huh? Did I mention this is pretty much the core belief and one of the only things JWs hope for? You might see how your borg could be considered callous and uncaring of those around them...
If you don't want to be considered a troll, don't post crap you know people are going to hammer you for..
Hey theTruth,a quote from your post at the top of page 2,regarding JW`s considering WBTS a Noah`s Ark : "We see it like Noah`s Ark,-not true" .... A quote from another post,from you down the page "Again if we do see the WBTS as a modern Noah`s Ark we are still preaching and there would still be chances for people to enter the ark"....Are you even capable of speaking truthfully?..Do you really think god needs you to lie for him? Why would god want to associate himself with a liar like you?....Do you know who your religion teach`s is the father of the lie?.It`s Satan....Do you know whose foot steps you follow in when you lie,according to your religion..It`s Satan...If I were to judge you by your own religions moral yardstick,you are a Satan worshiper..LOL!...OUTLAW
but my past experience suggests that had they made more than a token gesture, they would be crowing about it incessantly in their magazines, perhaps having even produced a VHS tape of ``Bethel in Action."
chances for people to enter the arch.
do you spell ark this way so, you can turn around later and say, "ha, i never said noah's ark, did i?"
nevertheless, i wasnt there and i dont know all the facts, and even eyewitness reports cant give us a full picture of what the bethel really did, so i'm not interested in judging this. it is interesting though to see what other people have to say about what happened.
but if bethel did quickly lock the doors, then they responded a lot quicker than the NORAD.
ok.... well first off - id like to say that i have never - in my 23 years in the truth- heard of the watchtower bible and track society refered to as NOAHS ARK. (is everyone happy that i spelled it right? i hope so because that seems to be the only thing that i am doing that everyone can comment about.) - NOW - there is alot of thing similar between Noahs Days and ours. and the WBTS does make reference to that fact. for instance. one of the similar things is that people would laugh at us for beleiving that jehovah will wipe all evil from the earth. and guess what? thats exactly what most of you are doing. --- Jehovahs witness are not the only religion that beleive that the end it near - actually i would say a good amount of religions beleive the same thing. not interpreted the same way as we. but still in similar fashion. --------- now going back to the NOAHS ark deal --------- when i mentioned (OUTLAW) that "if we did think of the WTBS as NOAHS ARK" i was simply stating how rediculous it sounds for you to think that Jehovahs witnesses beleive that WBTS is the modern day NOAHS ARK. - so again i am not a lier and you mentioned that your religion would consider me a SATAN worshiper. what religion are you from? IM SURE ITS MUCH BETTER THAN MINE RIGHT?