by pale.emperor 65 Replies latest jw friends
Londo111 totally detest some of the made up allegations his opponents have brought up with zero evidence...
Yes that really was beyond disgusting and I don't mind saying I now have zero respect for Kim Brookes and some of The " Vast Apostate Army" crew who were the instigators of those obscene allegations.
Londo111 totally detest some of the made up allegations his opponents have brought up with zero evidence...Yes that really was beyond disgusting and I don't mind saying I now have zero respect for Kim Brookes and some of The " Vast Apostate Army" crew who were the instigators of those obscene allegations.
I dont dislike him. I dont know him as a person so i have nothing to say on that regard. He does seem to have a lot of contacts and access to stuff that we dont.
How can he be making money off his activism? (apart from selling his books). Surely not enough to live on?
802 pages? Really?
This is coming from a neutral place... but why does anyone write anything?? Why did Ray Franz write one book? Two books? Does it really matter? There are a lot of exJW's who are now "making a living" (sort to speak) off of coming out of the cult. Some have become psychologist/psychiatrists, some have become motivational speakers, authors and the list goes on... If you were raised in this cult, you were raised to be an opportunist whether you see it or not- you were also raised to be super judgmental of others whether you see it or not...
How can he be making money off his activism? (apart from selling his books). Surely not enough to live on?
Patreon?
After being out for 40+ years allow me to assist in how to leave.
1. Make sure that you really don't believe in it any more. That is the key.
2. Accept the fact that no matter what you say or write to friends or elders, the impression that you will make on still-ins is absolutely zero. So don't bother to explain, they'll make even more mileage out of that than if you just walk.You say it best when you say nothing at all.
3. Accept that you will lose friends and possibly loved ones too. You will, without doubt. Accept it, or don't do it.
4. Fill your spare time with good stuff. Most of your non-working hours will have been spent on witnessy things. You'll have a big hole to fill.
5. Recognise the fact that you, as a human, are a social creature and that you need people. So get a social scene organised anyway that you can. College, sports, hobbies, whatever.
6. Don't look for an alternative religion. It'll just be another belief system to replace the last one. Forget it. If there is a God and he wants you to do something, he's pretty sure to tell you.
7. Don't become a victim. Victims can quickly become a pain in the arse and the sympathy you receive initially will dry up very quickly.
8. Learn how to have fun!
Lloyd has stated on the record that he earns a living as an activist and openly thanked his Patreon backers. I frankly applaud the man. I think that many of us still hold onto the JW mindset that charging for this is somehow wrong.
I'm just started a Patreon account for my "shunned" podcast because people have asked me to and there are ongoing costs with what I do every month. I will continue regardless but if I could make a living helping people and spreading TTATT that would be amazing. I can't fault anyone wanting to do that. I'm sure that Lloyd would continue his work in a limited capacity if he wasn't backed financially but he's getting donations that allow him to do more. Good for him!
We need every video, book, podcast, flyer, conversation, etc. that we can get. Each voice attracts a certain person so let's all put ours out there and it seems like we should applaud others that do.
dubstepped comments pretty much express how I feel... I think the more the merrier when it comes to helping others no matter what forum or way they choose to do it. My first comment was simply a reminder that its easy to fall back into the way you were once wired to believe. Is it really wrong for someone to devote their life to exposing this cult and also use it as a source of income since (again) they are devoting all their energies into it?
Lloyd is certainly eloquent but if the book is "How to Leave..." I've already done that so I wouldn't read it anyhow. If someone wants to buy it, so be it.
In case anyone is interested John Cedar's youtube channel reached 20,000 subscribers a couple weeks ago and is now well on his way to 25,000!
I know...I know there are many a porn star with way many more subscribers! :-) :-)
